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JoshK

The MSR elctrozapper water purifier thingy

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From MIOX Pat. No. RE36,972

 

Electrolytic cell for generating sterilization solutions having increased ozone content.

The present invention comprises an apparatus for generating a mixed oxidant stream including ozone, as well as chlorine based oxidants. The apparatus includes a flow chamber having two substantially planar walls which form the anode and cathode of an electrical circuit. A DC electric potential is maintained between the anode and cathode. An electrolytic solution is caused to flow between the anode and cathode surfaces. This stream is subsequently divided into cathode and anode streams. The anode stream provides the mixed oxidant stream in question. The flow rate through the apparatus determines the ratio of the various oxidants in the anode stream. This flow rate is adjusted with the aid of a sensor that measures a parameter which is correlated with ozone production to maintain optimum ozone production. For optimum ozone production to be obtained, the zone between the anode and cathode must be defined such that an electrochemical interaction zone bounded by the anode and cathode exists that has a shape such that electrolytic solution caused to flow through said interaction zone has substantially the same residence time in said interaction zone independent of the path taken through the interaction zone.

 

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it's a high tech version of aquamira, a lot less messy than combining two chemicals.

 

Fill up your water bottle with the dirty water, dip miox pen in same to fill up top of pen. push a little button 1,2, or x times depending on how much water you need purifying, and it 'cooks' up a little purifying solution you then pour into bottle. wait ten minutes and its ready to go.

 

It was unique in that you could a) use in in complete darkness, as little LED lights show you whats happening b)it can be refilled with plain table salt if you run out of the special salt tabs and c) it's a chemical EPA certified purifier. The only filter out there that rates as a purifier is the First Need, and they clog ready fast. Downside, needs battery, also waiting the ten minutes like tabs. Also, doesn't clean out murk.

 

I think it is ideal for military or third world or remote trips like floating the Churchill or thru hiking. Safer on the body then prolonged Iodine use.

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wave.gif hey beck!

 

joshk if you do a search, there was an epic 'discussion' which was dubbed the dueling miox pens about a year ago... it is a fun read

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trihalomethane is made when disinfectants containing chlorine come in contact with dissolved organic carbon

 

trihalomethane is a known carcinogen.

 

acceptable drinking water levels of trihalomethane were recently revised downwards, i think the current level is 8 ppb.

 

you might want to think about this before running some of that tea-coloured, Olympic Mountains water through your Miox pen system.

 

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How come my profile shows that I'm ignoring Marylou, but all of a sudden I can read her posts. confused.gif

 

However in the case of this thread I'd gladly stop ignoring her just so I can witness an idiotic battle to the death between Marylou and Beck. boxing_smiley.gifyelrotflmao.gif

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I still want to know how marylou has any authority to test gear or get free shit. somebody tell me.

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I still want to know how marylou has any authority to test gear or get free shit. somebody tell me.

You'd rather listen to Beck? Who only uses CC.com to boost himself in the world fruit.gifyelrotflmao.gif

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I still want to know how marylou has any authority to test gear or get free shit. somebody tell me.

You'd rather listen to Beck? Who only uses CC.com to boost himself in the world fruit.gifyelrotflmao.gif

 

I think I'd rather listen to somebody who actually climbs :P

 

Then again, it seems those of us who climb would rather be out climbing then writing reciews to score new gear to talk and brag about.

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I don't think too much of folks who appoint themselves experts.

 

Nowadays thought there's a lot of demand for content because of the internet and all. It's only natural that there are lots of new opportunities for folks like Marylou and Beck. wazzup.gif

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you wanted to know how the thing works, JoshK,

 

I hope I gave you some useful input on it. I only tested the prototype. dru had an interesting point about using chlorine, wonder if it's valid.

 

I'm still using iodine tabs, or bleach, or a filter, or boiling.

 

and as to the rest of this thread, whatever! cantfocus.gif

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No, all the info was good, you were right, that's all I wanted to know.

 

Like I said, I reached my conclusion...this thing is worthless in the cascades. I very rately treat water as it is, and if I do, I either boil or use iodine. It was just how it did it that interested me.

 

But I am glad to know that marylou has scored herself a worthless $130 nerd-toy water purifier that she can talk about.

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I almost never do anything to water. Normally I make a judgement call on how much human activity goes on where the water I'm planning on drinking comes from. I have yet to find anywhere in the Cascades where I could not get water that I'm willing to drink.

 

Maybe I'm lucky or immune to nasty stuff. cantfocus.gif My system's worked so far...

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i wouldnt drink the water from the Crooked River even if I treated it with a MIOX pen bigdrink.gif

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Me neither, but there's plenty of good water to be had that flows out of spigots in the park. wink.gif

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AlpineK: that comes straight from the crooked river. sometimes it shows up a little brown in the spigots because the park ranger forgot to replace the dirty sock that is filtering out the dead cow parts.

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The device is an electrochemical cell that converts chloride ion into hypochlorite ion, if I understand it correctly. Hypochlorite is ordinary bleach. I don't believe it reacts with organic compounds to produce chloroform the way Cl2 would. Under certain conditions it is possible to generate chlorite or even perchlorate ions electrolytically, which would probably not be good for you. Hopefully, this doesn't happen.

 

Why not use ordinary bleach? Has anyone tasted the water from this device? Does it taste good?

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