iain Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 my question after a weekend at smith: are you allowed to give beta in the dihedrals area if you are not wearing a north face down product? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 yes  patagonia is also acceptable attire for spewing beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted January 23, 2004 Author Share Posted January 23, 2004 thank you. I will acquire the appropriate garments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billygoat Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 The Era of the climbing "bum" is over isn't it?! It is like being in Telluride and seeing these lift ops sporting $2000 goretex and ski ensembles driving a $40,000 suv or truck. You know they are only getting $7 an hour, a pass and maybe lodging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fern Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 in the absence of correct clothing the following non-wearable substitutions may be made: Â - folding/CrazyCreek chair - labrador retriever (chocolate colour preferable, black acceptable, homemade climbing-rope leash attached but not held) - portable Coleman catalytic heater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billygoat Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Car keys must be kept on a fakey, minature carabiner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted January 23, 2004 Author Share Posted January 23, 2004 my friend has a yellow lab. I'll have to inform him he is out of spec. Â maybe if he smears some nutella on the beast or something he could show his face there again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whirlwind Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 dam does this mea need to sell the van cut the hair, buy a suv and take shower more than once a week on a climbing trip? i don't think i can handle this, im selling my rack and taking up the surfing life, least there are still some respectable beach bums out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPS Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Funny. One of the hardest climbers I ever met is a guy named Dave Moroles. His clothes are held together by copious amounts of duct tape, and I don't think he owns anything brand name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted January 23, 2004 Author Share Posted January 23, 2004 I have seen duct tape on some down jackets there. However, when peeled back, no cut in material is revealed. Is this a secret code? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fern Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 nah wirlwind, it just means you have to keep your mouth shut and avert your eyes as you pass the Dihedrals. On the other hand your van and hair give you complete license to lay a tarp in the middle of the parking lot to 'sort' your gear for 3 hours every morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 I have but one question: where do gorts put me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted January 23, 2004 Author Share Posted January 23, 2004 The tarp folk can often be seen loading up the gear in a metolius big wall bag. Yet mysteriously, the aid lines at smith remain empty for the day. I hope these multi-pitch linkups out of the dihedrals make it into the new smith guide, as I have yet to locate them. Â Once my friend and I saw tarp folk pause during the gear sorting ritual to set up a tripod and spotting scope to investigate the marsupials, shouting loudly at times. My friend and I looked for the obligatory SAR/EMT/FR patches on shoulders, packs, etc. but surprisingly, none were found. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted January 23, 2004 Author Share Posted January 23, 2004 I have but one question: where do gorts put me? Best not show up with those on in Deschutes County, son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billygoat Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 I can't wait to get a pair of "gorts"! But WTFAT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylou Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 North Face will simply not do. No real true-blue Smithie worth their weight in mini haul bags would be seen dead in TNF anymore. Â Patagonia will do, Dead Bird is within spec, and I believe any of the high-end softshells, but I'd need to check the style manual on the last one. Â Anyone know what the latest word is on Cloudeveil? I know the stuff's on the technical end, but it costs more than the sun and they have a line of "lifestyle" clothing out now, so that might just qualify them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 But what about Prana? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 But what about Prana? Only after memorial day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordop Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 (edited) . Edited June 8, 2021 by jordop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 The tent is okay if the vomit is local microbrew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordop Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 (edited) . Edited June 8, 2021 by jordop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 I can't wait to get a pair of "gorts"! But WTFAT? Custom pants that look like shorts over goretex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 my question after a weekend at smith: are you allowed to give beta in the dihedrals area if you are not wearing a north face down product?  Only in the summer  This time of year, a portable propane heater is a fine substitute, and will insure your listeners fascination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Anyone know what the latest word is on Cloudeveil? I know the stuff's on the technical end, but it costs more than the sun and they have a line of "lifestyle" clothing out now, so that might just qualify them. I don't think Cloudveil passes muster on the west coast. Head to the Intermountain west (CO!) and you'd be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figger_Eight Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Also...you need two or three different shoes hanging off the back of your pack. That way you have the appropriate footwear for climbing cracks, faces and friction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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