none_dup1 Posted March 6, 2001 Share Posted March 6, 2001 Sorry. I just loved seeing "HELP" so much I had to start a "HELP" thread of my own. But seriously, sitting at this desk in a shirt and tie while the sun shines is a terrible form of torture. You other desk monkeys know what I mean. John Sharp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted March 6, 2001 Share Posted March 6, 2001 Hey John, us Bellevue-ite workers could start going to Marrymoor on the nice days, I was thinking about heading down there this afternoon.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimL Posted March 6, 2001 Share Posted March 6, 2001 Its the worst sort of torture imaginable. Especially when there is dry Index granite out there waiting to be climbed. I think I'm starting to feel sick. By Thursday I probably won't be able to climb out of bed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted March 6, 2001 Share Posted March 6, 2001 yes even i have to work on some nice days! though i do have to admit that the day off allows my "smith" crack hands to heal, and i already have logged in for getttin' sick time tommorow to spend time at the "death crag". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highclimb Posted March 6, 2001 Share Posted March 6, 2001 Hey if you guys think work is bad imagine sitting in school while the sun is shining brightly and there is nothing you can do but draw pictures of mountains....grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. why cant it be beutiful on the weekends . speaking of school i am in it right now! hahahaha then think i am doing work. Aidan Aidan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
none_dup1 Posted March 6, 2001 Author Share Posted March 6, 2001 Aidan: My advice is to quit school right now. It can only lead to more school, then gainful employment, which is highly overrated. If you'd like to trade places, I'm happy to sit in your class and think naughty thoughts about the young fresh girls while you sit here in a suit and tie pretending to be the company's lawyer. Want to trade? This job is really fun. Honest! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllYouCanEat Posted March 7, 2001 Share Posted March 7, 2001 I am in school also, but I graduate in 2 weeks with my finance degree. I want to take some time off, but I don't have any money. I also don't have a place to stay or a job. Should I just go ski, climb, and kayak and forget work? Or should I work for 3 months at a crappy job and then quit and take the summer off? Or should I get a job and keep it? Anyone been in this position and (be truthfull) what decision did you make? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ade Posted March 7, 2001 Share Posted March 7, 2001 I'd be on for some lunchtime visits to Marymoore. Give me a shout if you're thinking of going any time soon. I'm still rather regretting the end of the winter... no more ice. Woe is me Ade  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highclimb Posted March 7, 2001 Share Posted March 7, 2001 MR.GT, dude i am in 8th grade...i hope you dont like thinking naughty thoughts about 14 year olds. you sick sick man. hahahahahha Ade, what do mean summer is coming be happy!!!!! . the tetons, rainer, baker, shuksan, the pickets, the north cascades, N. ridge of Stuart. its going to be alpine climbing for 2 mounths!!!!!!!!!!!!! I LOVE THE SUMMER Aidan  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolanr Posted March 7, 2001 Share Posted March 7, 2001 All you can eat: the goal is to be unemployed as often as possible. I am very seriously considering ditching my job late summer/early fall and taking some time to road trip and then play around in the mountains locally. I've gotten to do that from time to time, and it seems to be one of those itches I have to keep scratching. Think of it this way: you have most of the rest of your life to work. Keep life enjoyable and do what you want to sometimes. As far as the debate of working for a short time, then quiting and playing, or not working at all, either one works. Unfortunately we all need money, one of the great evils in life, and that usually requires some work here and there. Whatever you decide, have fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_a Posted March 7, 2001 Share Posted March 7, 2001 All you can eat, My recommendation, as lame as it might sound, get a good job as soon as possible right out of school. I was amazed at the amout of free time I have now as compared to when I was student, not to mention the fact that I now have money to buy gear and travel...and the best part...paid vacation time. I've been saving mine for a year and a half now and will use it while climbing Denali's West Rib next year...there can't be anything better than going away for a month to climb, and getting paid for it! So, I say join the corporate masses, just don't lose the climbing bum mentality! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
none_dup1 Posted March 7, 2001 Author Share Posted March 7, 2001 "But your honor, she SAID she was 18 . . ." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 7, 2001 Share Posted March 7, 2001 That's scary, I'm sitting in PA looking at the sunshine with a suit and tie pretending to be a company attorney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCK Posted March 7, 2001 Share Posted March 7, 2001 mr. all you can eat- I have been in your position wondering? here is my recomendation. First get a job that is punishing. You want one that beats you down and makes you want to cry for your mommy. You want to forge yourself into a stainless steel through bolted power tool.(commercial fishing, or construction are good examples) With the little money that you have earned, buy a 1 way bus ticket to Yosemite Valley. Start climbing the clasic trade routes. While you are there it's time to evolve your situation to a more stable solution. get a girlfreind who works for the curry company. This put's you in a tent cabin, a kitchen, steady food, and other benifits we won't go into. take her climbing a little. You can probably trim your overhead to about 5-6 dollars a day, and eat well every day. Start free soloing easy routes and to put in some mileage, and build your confidence. On alternate day's do hard free climbs, and take the bus around to the boldering circuits around the valley. When you start to feel like a bad man, but more importantly, knowing you are a bad man then start doing some big wall routes.climb them as free as possible and pull up on gear to maintian to maintian speed.Try not to bivy too much. If your girlfreind dumps you when you start wall climbing & biving too much then you have a couple of options; you can get a coat hanger and "can" or at night dumpster dive for aluminum pop cans.these can be taken to the curry store and cashed in. I recommend unsing this money to help your beer habit. if you choose this method then you will be in good company. The dumpsters are as competitive as speed ascents. Or, you can get a job at the curry company and work part time. Either method keeps you in the valley. When fall comes if you pick the latter, you will be able to work at Squaw valley and ski all winter.In any case this should keep you fat and happy for 6-8 months living hand to mouth. Honestly, I did this for years. It was an exceptional part of my life. i met the best of frinds, had the best experiences, and unparalleled adventure. As someone said"at either end of the social spectrum there exists a leisure class". This is very true; I have been on each end of the spectrum, having spent my youth climbing every chance possible, meeting people, and traveling. When I was ready to do something different I started my own company, and become quite successful at what I do. In any case I work all over the world,and I want for little.But I find myself looking out the window like so many other corporate professional zombie's whishing I could cut loose and do whatI am recomending that you do. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highclimb Posted March 8, 2001 Share Posted March 8, 2001 MR.GT, hahahaha  Aidan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllYouCanEat Posted March 9, 2001 Share Posted March 9, 2001 Thanks for all your guy's wisdom. I appreciate it. I have decided to hang out for a month and during that time I plan on finding a job. I need to learn what the real world is like. Hell, school is not the real world -- I play too much. I have been playing my whole life. Anyhow, my skis never last more that a few months, I am getting a bit cold in my sleeping bag, and my tent leaks. Hell, playing is expensive and since the market took a **** I can't afford it. I want new "STUFF"! Keep it coming... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted March 9, 2001 Share Posted March 9, 2001 a.y.c.e., sorry to hear that you are going to fall to the darkside. if there is one recomendation i can make is stay away from the real world. it is a dark scary place where things might seem allright, but deep down there is something amiss. i'm not sure what it is but i can say that anything to do with the profit of ohers through you is poisen for the soul. i have been to the real world and it is baddd!!!!!!!! i once was an insurance adjuster at the ripe age of 20 and fought with people over things that just don't matter. mostly money. i finally sat down after a heated argument with a person i had never met, will never meet and don't ever want to meet and came to the conclusion. i need to go to the valley. that was last july. since then i have never been heathier, climbed as hard or even stressed out about things that once did. i.e. traffic. i now have no money and love every minute of it. i piece together little jobs here and there and climb...climb...climb. fortunatly i have free rent and friends with lots of food...thanks wallstein! i have to admit that the dream has to end as i enter another four yrs of college in cali...close to the valley all can stay at my house. but you are right college is the land of honey. ican't wait to tget some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbb Posted March 9, 2001 Share Posted March 9, 2001 so when you enter the real world and start working the mandatory 40, does that limit real trips to the once-a-year expedition? (assuming normal vacation) yikes. Any tips at how to live @ camp 4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted March 9, 2001 Share Posted March 9, 2001 dbb, don't live at camp four. it costs money. though if you do have to or really want to i reccomend to go to bed late and wake up early. just poach a corner of someones camp site. be nice, bring plenty of goodies from washingotn and share your beer. you will be looked down upon and as an outsider if you drink anything other then ol' e' or the king cobra. don't tell the locals how it is where you live. they don't care. they live in the the VALLEY! be friendly and just enjoy your time. ignore the rangers at all costs and don't shop lift. lol. free showers at house keeping or currry in the late afternoon. don't eat out. and don't offend the WAY! he will eat you alive ask wallstein for the secret...secret..wink..wink beta. buddies got the place wired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon Posted March 9, 2001 Share Posted March 9, 2001 You guys have it all wrong. Go to school, get a good job that you like and pays.........................with a boss that climbs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gapertimmy Posted March 9, 2001 Share Posted March 9, 2001 "welcome to the machine. all in all, your just another brick in the wall...." thats what i was told when i started working for darth gates. words of wisdom eh? remember, you can't eat your pudding unless you eat your meat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted March 9, 2001 Share Posted March 9, 2001 Wish you were here was '75, while The wall was '79....? I prefer lyrics of the Final Cut to really motivate me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gapertimmy Posted March 9, 2001 Share Posted March 9, 2001 rawk on man, you know your floyd. i guess thats what happens when you're born in 77' and began listening to floyd in the 90's [This message has been edited by tim (edited 03-09-2001).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David_Parker Posted March 11, 2001 Share Posted March 11, 2001 May I suggest finishing college and then working your way as quickly as possible to being your own boss. Then you can be gainfully self-unemployed as much as you want! DPP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted March 11, 2001 Share Posted March 11, 2001 Self employment rules. Work hard make some money and then tell your customers your booked up for the next few weeks or months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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