leithal Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 So this is actually a work question!! I've climbed for over 10 years, but know nothing about drilling rock, but thought some of you fancy sport climbing-new route developers would be able to help...What equipment would be needed to drill a 1/4"-3/8" hole into basalt? What type of drill bit, how long would it take to drill a hole 3-4" deep, and how long (how many holes) would each bit last for? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, michelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobo Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 This is interesting... what kind of work do you do that requires this? Just curious... I've only drilled in granite, limestone, and diorite, so I'll let someone who's done basalt comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 This would do it : http://tools.cheapshop4u.com/B0000223JW.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinker Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 sounds like a good question for your Hilti rep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lummox Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 leithal said: So this is actually a work question!! I've climbed for over 10 years, but know nothing about drilling rock, but thought some of you fancy sport climbing-new route developers would be able to help...What equipment would be needed to drill a 1/4"-3/8" hole into basalt? What type of drill bit, how long would it take to drill a hole 3-4" deep, and how long (how many holes) would each bit last for? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, michelle hammer drill. masonry bit. 1/4 inch hole 2 inches deep will take bout 7 seconds. 3/8 at 3 will take 24. a milwaukee tools sds bit will last for many many holes. it will dull so the drilling will take more time. you can sharpen them with a grinder disc put in the drill chuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 $54 a hole will take about a half hour to an hour you will need a hammer and a drill bit too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leithal Posted November 24, 2003 Author Share Posted November 24, 2003 Thanks all, keep it coming. And Sobo- I'm a park ranger- yep, one of those friendly tree huggers that people love to hate.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lummox Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 leithal said: Thanks all, keep it coming. And Sobo- I'm a park ranger- yep, one of those friendly tree huggers that people love to hate.... no wonder you dont know shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Schuldt Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 Sooo, are you putting up a new route in a state park? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobo Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 leithal said: Thanks all, keep it coming. And Sobo- I'm a park ranger- yep, one of those friendly tree huggers that people love to hate.... Hmmmm, so didja see Dave Schuldt's question above...? This is getting interesting. A park ranger that bolts... more study is required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinker Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 I can see tons of uses for holes drilled in basalt. anchors to stabilize dangerous flakes, anchors for handrails, foundations for foot bridges, for cameras or sensors, for nest boxes, for 'fee area' signs, for gates, guy wires.....and tons of other uses. But, yes, I'm curious too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leithal Posted November 25, 2003 Author Share Posted November 25, 2003 Thinker, you've got the right ideas. No new routes going up (at least that any of us rangers are putting up) but instead more along the lines of a handrail/ and hillside stabilization. I'm not really involved in the project so don't know most of the details (that should feed Lummox's fire!) but somehow I've become the contact for anything regarding rock or climbing in the agency. Sorry to get all your hopes up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobo Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 mkay, thanx leithal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoker Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 So if yer talking low angle rock and good stances a gas powered rotor hammer is the ticket. As far as sharpening carbide sds bits I wouldn't recommend it, the dust is toxic and can cause health problems. Buy a new bit cheapy! If not gas then battery powered is the way to go, min 18 volts and 1/4-3/8" is about right for 18v rotor hammer. Probably get about 20-30 1/4" holes 3" deep I'm guessing. fewer in 3/8" Hammer drills suck unless your drilling into ceramic tile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrosaurus Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 Smoker said: ...Probably get about 20-30 1/4" holes 3" deep I'm guessing. fewer in 3/8" ... You will be lucky to get half that many holes in basalt. It is much harder to drill than granite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 Retrosaurus said: Smoker said: ...Probably get about 20-30 1/4" holes 3" deep I'm guessing. fewer in 3/8" ... You will be lucky to get half that many holes in basalt. It is much harder to drill than granite. It's also slower going, basalt won't diffuse the heat from drilling. You need to allow the bit to cool regularly or it will get too dull to drill. If it is at gound-level application, keep a can of water nearby to dip the hot bit into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lummox Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 Smoker said: a gas powered rotor hammer is the ticket. . . . . Hammer drills suck wtf? i hope whatever you got aint contagious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoker Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 HammerDrill Roto Hammer Notice the differance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montanapup Posted November 28, 2003 Share Posted November 28, 2003 since we're onto the question of drilling into rock, how about epoxy? what works best in rock under all weather conditions especially with bolts? not bolting climbs or anything, but doing some research for habitat restoration. any help is appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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