Scott_J Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 I have some "new" skins from last season. They are G3s. Here is the problem. The glue seems to be coming off irregularly in places. Is there a way to remove the old glue or do I just smear some new glue on them??? I am at a loss, so any and all help will be appreciated... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_average Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 I've never done it, but I've heard that it takes mild heat, then you can scrape the old glue off, and replace it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lummox Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 replace it with what? i got some funky skins too but only the glue is funked. got a brand name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_average Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 Ascension sells glue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thadsboner Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 to get the glue off, take a brown paper bag from the grocery store, stick it onto the glue and heat it up with an iron. when its ready to come off, it will pull off like you would the skin on a cooked turkey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-rock Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 Return those POS skins to the shop and ask for a warranty on some new ones. G3 has had NOTORIOUS glue problems for years. It pulls off from one side to another in big patches, this should NEVER happen with a good glue formulation. G3 now adamantly claims to have fixed the problem, go to the shop and adamantly demand a replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhamaker Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 Simple Solution: Take a medium hot iron and use it to even out the skin glue. The glue should smell but not smoke. The hot skin smell is toxic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philfort Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 When you return your G3 skins, get some Ascensions instead. I've had mine for 5 years with no problems. I reglued them for the first time last year (accumulated too much dirt and pine needles on the surface). Used the brown paper bag method described to remove the dirty glue. The new glue I added seems to come off a little near the front of the ski. That didn't happen before I reglued. Not a huge problem, but maybe I shouldn't have reglued.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-rock Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 Sisu, let me reiterate, do not listen to this nonsense about reglueing your G3 Skins, or spreading the glue around, they will just peel again. G3 should be held fully accountable for the lousy quality of merchandise they have put on the market the last few years. Â Reglueing Ascension skins with Ascension glue is a time-honored tradition performed after many years of wear and tear. With care the reapplication can be nearly as affective as the original factory glue application. But the problem with the G3's is not just the glue, it's the material that the glue is meant to adhere to. Â Return them and get Ascensions. If that doesn't work, return them and get this year's grey G3 skins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraysovereign Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 I think Ascensions still sells a re-gluing kit which is basically just pre-glued backing paper that you apply to the clean skin, and then iron. This mimics the way the glue is applied at the factory, and helps it bond to the fabric, and you don't end up with glue all over the iron. Alternatively, when you buy new Ascensions skins, keep the backing paper instead of throwing it out. Then, when you need to re-glue, use the brown paper procedure to remove the old wax, repeating as often as necessary to get right down to clean base fabric. After you apply the new glue, lay the old backing paper on the skin ("teflon" side down) and run over it with a hot iron. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 damn, that's deep but thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pindude Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 E-rock's down on it: while G3 has had their problems with skins, I hear they have good customer service re. any returns, and they've fixed the problem for the current season. Regardless, Ascension I think is best, but they in past had some glue problems too, also dealt with by good CS through BD, and fixed with the new skins available this season. Â If you have to re-glue, the brown paper method is cheap, but takes a couple *hours* and many grocery sacks to completely remove glue. Instead use a hot blade which can safely remove the glue within a couple *minutes*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott_J Posted November 19, 2003 Author Share Posted November 19, 2003 E-rock said: Sisu, let me reiterate, do not listen to this nonsense about reglueing your G3 Skins, or spreading the glue around, they will just peel again. G3 should be held fully accountable for the lousy quality of merchandise they have put on the market the last few years. Â Reglueing Ascension skins with Ascension glue is a time-honored tradition performed after many years of wear and tear. With care the reapplication can be nearly as affective as the original factory glue application. But the problem with the G3's is not just the glue, it's the material that the glue is meant to adhere to. Â Return them and get Ascensions. If that doesn't work, return them and get this year's grey G3 skins. Â E-rock your solution sounds the best. I have some old school skis that I put the Ascension glue on after I removed the hardward that skins used to sue to keep them on. they work like a charm. The G3s suck. I'll package them up and send them into the company and ask for the replacement gray ones. thanks sisu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tele_nut Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 E-rock said: Sisu, let me reiterate, do not listen to this nonsense about reglueing your G3 Skins, or spreading the glue around, they will just peel again. G3 should be held fully accountable for the lousy quality of merchandise they have put on the market the last few years. Â Reglueing Ascension skins with Ascension glue is a time-honored tradition performed after many years of wear and tear. With care the reapplication can be nearly as affective as the original factory glue application. But the problem with the G3's is not just the glue, it's the material that the glue is meant to adhere to. Â Return them and get Ascensions. If that doesn't work, return them and get this year's grey G3 skins. Â This is the best advice here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kailas Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 If your sports shop is any good they will have a special iron that is designed to remove old glue from skins, let them do this for you, its faster and they can put on new glue if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott_J Posted November 22, 2003 Author Share Posted November 22, 2003 sisu_suomi said: E-rock said: Sisu, let me reiterate, do not listen to this nonsense about reglueing your G3 Skins, or spreading the glue around, they will just peel again. G3 should be held fully accountable for the lousy quality of merchandise they have put on the market the last few years.  Reglueing Ascension skins with Ascension glue is a time-honored tradition performed after many years of wear and tear. With care the reapplication can be nearly as affective as the original factory glue application. But the problem with the G3's is not just the glue, it's the material that the glue is meant to adhere to.  Return them and get Ascensions. If that doesn't work, return them and get this year's grey G3 skins.  E-rock your solution sounds the best. I have some old school skis that I put the Ascension glue on after I removed the hardward that skins used to sue to keep them on. they work like a charm. The G3s suck. I'll package them up and send them into the company and ask for the replacement gray ones. thanks sisu  I sent this company an email requesting help or authorization to send the skins to them. So far NO ANSWER!!!! Are they really a good company that cares about their customer??? Sisu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pindude Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 Sisu, Two years ago one of my G3 Targa heel-riser plates cracked. I called them on the phone, talked for 2 mimutes, and 3 days later had a brand new pair of heel plates in my mailbox, no cost to me. If you can get through on the phone maybe that would work--right now is their busiest time of the year with getting product in the stores prior to Christmas, and everybody prepping to get up in the hills at beginning of season. I know you're wanting to get out: I'm just heading out for the afternoon, for the first time this season, once my ski partner shows up... Â If you can't get quick satisfaction from G3, there's a couple other "tactful" options we can think of--let us know what happens at the beginning of the work week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fern Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 I don't think the G3 email has ever worked. Phone them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoboy Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 I have had service from G3 both by email, and ny phone. The Phone was the best way to go. Â Really prompt and proactive service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott_J Posted November 23, 2003 Author Share Posted November 23, 2003 OK, everyone I'll be nice and call and not be an ass hole. Man I have to work on that. Ass hole is my middle name. I was a principal in a film clip a few weeks ago and I got to play the ass hole. It was so natural that I scared the female principal featured with me. hahaha The director liked it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-rock Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 I"ve never worked through them Sisu, because when I had G3 skin problems (after 1 fucking day) I took them straight back to the shop and demanded ascension's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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