marylou Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 Well, be sure to let us know how it is. I'm assuming you already know how to ski. I too am curious as to how the Freeride performs with an alpine boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 the only thing an alpine did for me was give me more power to push the skis.( i am sure this is incorrect terminology, but who gives a fuck!) the binding and the ski still react the same. i dont think the increase boot performance is going to make skiing much easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylou Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 It's got to make a little bit of difference! Doesn't it? I think boots are the most important piece of ski gear, and the diff between noodly AT boots and big fat alpine boots has got to matter. Or maybe not. I'll probably have to see for myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawgoddess Posted November 26, 2003 Author Share Posted November 26, 2003 marylou said: I too am curious as to how the Freeride performs with an alpine boot. i've talked to quite a few people here who ski the freeride with an alpine/downhill boot - both inbounds and for backcountry touring. they like the control better going down the hill and say it's not too much of a "pain" for touring unless there's a lot of flat traversing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 thelawgoddess said: i've talked to quite a few people here who ski the freeride with an alpine/downhill boot - both inbounds and for backcountry touring. they like the control better going down the hill and say it's not too much of a "pain" for touring unless there's a lot of flat traversing. soooo.... you have not experienced it yourself? typical! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoboy Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 thelawgoddess said: i've talked to quite a few people here who ski the freeride with an alpine/downhill boot - both inbounds and for backcountry touring. they like the control better going down the hill and say it's not too much of a "pain" for touring unless there's a lot of flat traversing. My friend uses a similar setup. She got a kid's race boot because she has small feet and she had a cobbler grind the bottom down and put a thin Vibram sole on it. She uses this for bc, and inbounds. The only caveat is that it would not be all that good in an alpine binding, as the Vibram may interfere with proper release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 Here are my two problems with using fritschi freerides for on-piste: 1. They are not very torsionally stiff. If you look at how the bar beneath the heel piece is fixed to the ski you will see what I mean. As your boot levers the ski over when edging there is not much restraining the bar from rotating in the heel lock down piece. This is especially noticeable when you are skiing fat skis where there is more leverage on the edge while skiing hardpack. 2. There is no forward lean built into the bindings. If you look at most downhill bindings the elevation of the heel piece is probably about 5-10mm higher than the elevation of the toe piece, which tilts your boot forward slighlty on the ski. The diamirs do not have this and leave your boot sitting almost flat (maybe even tilted very slightly backwards). I found that this gives the feel of "riding in the back seat" all the time. Lastly, I'm all for touring in downhill boots, provided they fit well and your priority is skiing. The only thing is that they do suck on flats, and they suck to put on in the morning. I've done tonnes of touring with a diamir/downhill boot setup including a 2 week traverse, and this system works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawgoddess Posted November 28, 2003 Author Share Posted November 28, 2003 erik said: you have not experienced it yourself? typical! no, i haven't, and i didn't say i did. but if you'd like to send me ... oh, say $400 i'll be happy to pay the difference to get the set-up and report back to you firsthand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
climberchris01 Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 jibbing is doing tricks and jumping and shit like that, going big, fast and looking good doing it, you could really have a whole thread on jibbing, but this is not the forum for it, if you want to see the frontline jibbers go to www.freezeonline.com and see some of the best new school skiers out there and model your skiing after the big mountain likes of seth morrison, and hugo harrison, they are SICK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylou Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 Oh, that's what it is. No wonder everyone here is always chuckling about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawgoddess Posted December 1, 2003 Author Share Posted December 1, 2003 sage cattabriga-alosa does big mountain jibbing. you could see that in the new tgr movie. although ... he doesn't do it with fritschi freerides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 climberchris01 said: www.freezeonline.com I'm a convert! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylou Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 I have heard that the freerides work fine with alpine boot Tried that combo today. Seemed to work fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gapertimmy Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 (edited) OMFG, RIP IT UP! Edited December 18, 2003 by gapertimmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 timberline in the house Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny_destiny Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 Do some squats, leg extensions, etc. in other words gal work out and you won't have to worry about the boots being stiff enough to do the job correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Beck Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 one other reason to ride appropiate equipment, aside from fritchis' flex at the heel and are not nearly as rigid laterally than a silvretta or a proper downhill binding, but more importantly, AT bindings don't release in as many directions! no up release from the toe, no twisting release from the heel! Skiing on AT gear at the lifts, besides being a terribly posey thing to do, is not as safe as downhill equipment... i get a chuckle whenever i see lifties with AT gear and no safety equipment, or even skins! HAHAHAHA I hope you don't go that route, TLG, but hey, you're so pretty it doesn't matter what you do! have a nice winter, TLG! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 my at gear has released when I've wanted it to and stayed put when I didn't. seems safe enough to me. I don't own alpine gear, way too expensive. fritchis seem more stable than silvrettas to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lI1|1! Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 Woo! Freeride, take it easy Freeride, take it easy Freeride, take it easy I'm in the mood The rhythm is right Move to the music We can roll all night Oooh Freeride Oooh Freeride, take it easy Freeride, take it easy Freeride, take it easy Slow down, go down, got to get your lovin' one more time Hold me, roll me, slow ridin' woman you're so fine Woo! I'm in the mood The rhythm is right Move to the music We can roll all night Oooh Freeride, take it easy Freeride, take it easy Freeride, take it easy Slow down, go down, got to get your lovin' one more time Freeride, easy, Freeride, sleazy Freeride, easy, Freeride, sleazy Slow down, go down, got to get your lovin' one more time Hold me, roll me, slow ridin' woman you're so fine Freeride, take it easy Freeride, take it easy Slow down, go down, slow down, go down Come on baby Take a Freeride on me Come on baby Take a Freeride Feels so good, Feels good, Come on baby Feels good, Feel allright You know the rhythm is right We gotta rock all night We gotta rock all night We gotta rock all night Whoa, rock all night Woo! Woo! Your flamin' heart Your flamin' heart Woo! Woo! Woo! Freeride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 AT gear still has greater release capabilities than any of the tele bindings out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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