oldfart Posted March 2, 2002 Share Posted March 2, 2002 Castleton Tower in Utah is being threatened with development. This classic and historic tower on everyone's road trip list is possibly headed toward housing developments and general "upgrading". Check out the site of concerned people and climbers at: www.CastleRockCollaboration.org If you haven't been lucky enough to have already climbed this classic, be concerned for the future when you will want to climb it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenolith Posted March 3, 2002 Share Posted March 3, 2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texplorer Posted March 3, 2002 Share Posted March 3, 2002 I heard about this oldfart. This is one of my favorite climbs ever. It's a sad state of affairs that we even have to think about repelling another condom-minia from a place like this. Damn I'm starting to sound like my tree-hugging friend Mr. Zeno. Anyhow I'm going back there in a couple of weeks. If I see any developers out there I'll rough um up for you guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klenke Posted March 4, 2002 Share Posted March 4, 2002 How can something as beautiful as that NOT be protected? It's a impressive as Monument Valley and not too far away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max Posted March 4, 2002 Share Posted March 4, 2002 quote: Originally posted by klenke: How can something as beautiful as that NOT be protected? Careful that's the logic those sport climbing dweebs use to bolt faces! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szyjakowski Posted March 4, 2002 Share Posted March 4, 2002 quote: Originally posted by max: Careful that's the logic those sport climbing dweebs use to bolt faces! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenolith Posted March 4, 2002 Share Posted March 4, 2002 what do condoms and bolts have in common? they both protect a bunch of pricks. just made that up -don't get your spandex in a bunch tex- i don't really mean it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenolith Posted March 4, 2002 Share Posted March 4, 2002 looky down there, that little rat wants something to hump! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pope Posted March 4, 2002 Share Posted March 4, 2002 quote: Originally posted by max: Careful that's the logic those sport climbing dweebs use to bolt faces! Hey, that's damn funny! Kind of interesting how a row of condos will offend somebody when line after line of bolts will not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allison Posted March 4, 2002 Share Posted March 4, 2002 There are some places that shouldn't be bolted, but also some that should. Wilderness protection status for the Exit 38 area? Weeeelll....maybeee NOT. Don't I have the best autosig in the whole wide world? We do have more fun. At least I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon Posted March 4, 2002 Share Posted March 4, 2002 quote: Originally posted by pope: Hey, that's damn funny! Kind of interesting how a row of condos will offend somebody when line after line of bolts will not. Hey you could say the same about the opposite too huh. If bolting gets your panties in a bunch never become a mountain biker. Nothing like being banned from a trail right next to a damn clearcut and freeway. Sorry I'm bitter. Definately check out that website, very interesting. They are obviously in need of money to make these land purchases, I might write a few quick letters to encourage some outdoor companies to help, like dare I say it... REI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pope Posted March 4, 2002 Share Posted March 4, 2002 quote: Originally posted by jon: If bolting gets your panties in a bunch never become a mountain biker. If bolting gets your panties in a bunch...... just think what those cute, lycra shorts would do (not to mention those minimal little racing seats you boys use). Ouch! I get testicular torsion just thinking about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithKSchultz Posted March 4, 2002 Share Posted March 4, 2002 Dear boys and girls from Never Never Land. The boogie man does exist. He will destroy Castleton Tower if there is a profit involved. If you think you are going to stop the boogieman by holding bake sales and gathering a bunch of hippies on the street yelling reeeeeaaaaaallyy cool slogans then you are a dumbshit and Castlteton tower is doomed. It will be by political force that Castleton tower is saved. In other words, money talks. If everyone who has posted on this site were every ecohippie in the world then what percentage of ecohippies vote? Send letters to Congress? Are politically active in any piddlyass way? My guess is that it is a pretty pathetic percentage. Without the money eco groups get from dastardly corporations like North Face and Patagonia, the public who actually vote and actually get involved in political movements would probably never hear about the political movements in the first place. Pop quiz: Who represents you in congress? (Hint; Senator xxx, Congress person xxx). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael_H Posted March 4, 2002 Share Posted March 4, 2002 Hmmm, REI can be a good idea, especially if they lobby too. I sent money and wrote a letter (while poupe was lurking around counting bolts ) as soon as the Climbing first mentioned it. But there is really no dialog when writing to "elected"-s, just "received" notes. Is there a way to have a meaningful feedback? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recriminator Posted March 5, 2002 Share Posted March 5, 2002 Allison don't you get it Pope likes it in only one position !!Boring!!! He thinks its sports in school where he can dictate the way kids play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobinc Posted March 5, 2002 Share Posted March 5, 2002 One way to add your voice to an existing campaing on this issue is to contact Utah Open Lands and join their campaign. They have been quite successful in protecting some crucial land parcels in Utah over the last ten years. Here's their site: utahopenlands.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted March 5, 2002 Share Posted March 5, 2002 quote: Originally posted by KeithKSchultz: Dear boys and girls from Never Never Land. The boogie man does exist. He will destroy Castleton Tower if there is a profit involved. If you think you are going to stop the boogieman by holding bake sales and gathering a bunch of hippies on the street yelling reeeeeaaaaaallyy cool slogans then you are a dumbshit and Castlteton tower is doomed.It will be by political force that Castleton tower is saved. In other words, money talks. If everyone who has posted on this site were every ecohippie in the world then what percentage of ecohippies vote? Send letters to Congress? Are politically active in any piddlyass way? My guess is that it is a pretty pathetic percentage. Without the money eco groups get from dastardly corporations like North Face and Patagonia, the public who actually vote and actually get involved in political movements would probably never hear about the political movements in the first place.Pop quiz: Who represents you in congress? (Hint; Senator xxx, Congress person xxx). To that I say... if you think politix will work better than a bake sale, i hope you got more $$$ than the oilpatch lobby. only one thing will work and that is REVOLUTION!!! "The act of desctruction is also a creative act" - Mikhail Bakunin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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