allthumbs Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 Conclusion- Wanna ride bikes in traffic? Fine; but don't bitch about the consequences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 Narrow arterials are just that. Don’t expect to go as fast on 40th as you can on 50th. Do the Metro busses stopping at every other block piss you off as much as the cyclists? Also the side streets frequently don’t go the whole way through. This is the case around 40th Yes the busses piss me off. They could easily get rid of 1/2 the marked bus stops; I don't worry about killing the bus though. There are some points on N 40th where you need to be on the street, however you don't have to be on it all the way across town. I don't ride all the time, but when I do I use side streets next to arterials when I can. Plus I know a bunch of people who ride a lot who criticize bikers on narrow arterials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 Elegant response as usual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawgoddess Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 Jim said: She was dumbstruck and I thought she was going to start to cry. I left it. i'm not trying to defend her, but in all honesty sometimes we don't see you guys. and it's not that we aren't paying attention or looking. i've had cyclists sneak up on my blind spot and try to pass straight through on the right in a right-hand turn lane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucK Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 thelawgoddess said: Jim said: She was dumbstruck and I thought she was going to start to cry. I left it. i'm not trying to defend her, but in all honesty sometimes we don't see you guys. Just staying between the lanes is hard enough when you're dialing that cell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 thelawgoddess said: Jim said: She was dumbstruck and I thought she was going to start to cry. I left it. i'm not trying to defend her, but in all honesty sometimes we don't see you guys. and it's not that we aren't paying attention or looking. i've had cyclists sneak up on my blind spot and try to pass straight through on the right in a right-hand turn lane. I would agree that honest mistakes are made and I ride conservatively. But in this case she started behind be and I was signalling my turn. She was just in a rush and wanted to zip around me. Why she came back in my lane and brushed me is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinker Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 (edited) Thanks Norm, from: http://www.cascade.org/Education/Materials.cfm Laws / Safety Street Smarts: Bicycling Traffic Survival Guide (40pp. booklet) Washington State Bicycle Traffic Laws Sharing the Road: A Guide for Motorists and Cyclists Share the Road: Safety Tips for Cyclists and Motorists Share the Trail Think I'll order em up today and give em a read! Now if the Jersey Boys would just do the same.......... edit: I actually found the first two online at http://home.attbi.com/~larryleveen/laws.pdf http://www.bikexprt.com/streetsmarts/usa/index.htm another decent resource: http://home.attbi.com/~larryleveen/ Now all I need is a little time to digest them. Edited June 19, 2003 by Thinker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attitude Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 AlpineK said: Plus I know a bunch of people who ride a lot who criticize bikers on narrow arterials. I know a bunch of peole who drive a lot who criticize motorists on the interstates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloth_Man Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 Another lesson for the children. Don't let some beemer bitch try to get sympathy from you by pulling out the 'I'm gonna cry' shit. The bitch almost killed you, so make her cry already. Call her all the bad words you can think of. No doubt she went home and bitched to her sugar daddy about the biker who ran into her on the road. Whatever you do don't reinforce that 'I'm gonna cry' shit. You'll get plenty of that pulled on you in the future so you'd better start hardening up right quick if you don't want to be used, abused, and left feeling like a jerk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpine_Tom Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 Um, maybe it's a little late for this thread, but in general, "bikers" ride Harleys. "Cyclists" ride bicycles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa_Eagle Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 yeah, if you were signalling, and she was behind you, there's no way she can claim she didn't see you. She should not have been cut any slack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b-rock Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 Q: What's the difference between a porcupine and a BMW? A: The porcupine has the pricks on the outside. Sorry, couldn't resist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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