j_b Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 short and interesting perspective on Tensing Norgay http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200305/29/200305292245361539900090809081.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyFlattlander Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 Very interesting. The Sherpas are very spiritual and unselfish people. I hope I get a chance to experience their culture first hand some day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 It is interesting to note that Jamling Norgay chose to climb the mountain, even though he didn't have to as his father did to lift himself from poverty. In one generation, we see a very Western man. That's what education can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 "Among them, Lhakpa Cela, a sherpa, broke the record, finishing the ascent from the base camp in the span of 10 hours and 15 minutes. Appa succeeded on his 13th climb, becoming the most frequent climber of Everest. A 15-year-old girl, Ming Kipa, became the youngest climber." Wow, considering how much we heard about the roskelleys, et al. it's amazing this is the first I've heard of all of these accomplishments, which are far more impressive. My parents hired a sherpa to help out my mom in the garden occasionanally at their old house. His name was Lopsang Sherpa, and a nicer, harder working man you would not find. He offered my father and I the opportunity to trek with him in Nepal some day. I'd like to take him up on that offer some day. -josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambone Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 "In one generation, we see a very Western man. That's what education can do." What the hell is that supposed to mean catbird??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 n98947 said: The Sherpas are very spiritual and unselfish people. Like Johnny Destiny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa_Eagle Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 Yeah, I saw Jamling speak a few years back, and he said that his father had specifically told him not to go. (yet in the movie, Jamling said he wanted to climb it to get closer to his father...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawgoddess Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 Ursa_Eagle said: (yet in the movie, Jamling said he wanted to climb it to get closer to his father...) don't believe everything you see in the movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forrest_m Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 JoshK said: "Among them, Lhakpa Cela, a sherpa, broke the record, finishing the ascent from the base camp in the span of 10 hours and 15 minutes. Appa succeeded on his 13th climb, becoming the most frequent climber of Everest." just out of curiosity... do y'all remember that when dan - did his first rainier climb, he said that he had sprinted to the summit for time, but then walked down. people came out of the woodwork to basically say "who cares what your time was base to summit, climbing is about the round trip, etc. etc." no disrespect to Lhakpa Cela, obviously this is an olympic-caliber athletic performance, but i wonder where are the same voices? why isn't anyone asking "what's the point of a one-way ascent time?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_b Posted May 29, 2003 Author Share Posted May 29, 2003 it sounds so much like "i work at the mine so that you won't have to". could 'western' climbers be kidding themselves about what motivates them to climb an 8000er? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 forrest_m said: JoshK said: "Among them, Lhakpa Cela, a sherpa, broke the record, finishing the ascent from the base camp in the span of 10 hours and 15 minutes. Appa succeeded on his 13th climb, becoming the most frequent climber of Everest." just out of curiosity... do y'all remember that when dan - did his first rainier climb, he said that he had sprinted to the summit for time, but then walked down. people came out of the woodwork to basically say "who cares what your time was base to summit, climbing is about the round trip, etc. etc." no disrespect to Lhakpa Cela, obviously this is an olympic-caliber athletic performance, but i wonder where are the same voices? why isn't anyone asking "what's the point of a one-way ascent time?" http://everestnews.com/everestnews3/masterspeed.htm "He completed this ascent from Base Camp to top and reached down to Base Camp in 18 hours 20 Minutes. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forrest_m Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 See, that’s just what I mean… 18 hours is incredibly impressive, the dude’s a freakin’ animal. I remember when erhard & loretain (sp?) did it in 43 hour RT and it was revolutionary. So why is the 10 hour time what is so widely reported, in “climbing” sources as well as mainstream ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 Good quesiton, forrest, a bit confusing that climbing media would report just the ascent as well. BTW, in your first post it should be "when dan made up the story about his first climb" not "when dan did his first climb" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 forrest_m said: See, that’s just what I mean… 18 hours is incredibly impressive, the dude’s a freakin’ animal. I remember when erhard & loretain (sp?) did it in 43 hour RT and it was revolutionary. So why is the 10 hour time what is so widely reported, in “climbing” sources as well as mainstream ones? I vote for laziness - if you've ever tracked the way stories are reported in most papers today, they do fairly little original reporting/research - most of it's cut & paste assemblage of wire reports. If you've ever been quoted in a newspaper they're often not particularly accurate in quotation or fact reproduction(and that's not just the Nytimes) Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 HEREHERE!! The media sucks. BASH the media!! BTW, everestnews.com is run by a bunch of religious freaks, or so I'm told. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobo Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 Winter said: BTW, everestnews.com is run by a bunch of religious freaks, or so I'm told. Bhuddists??? Or otherwise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_b Posted May 30, 2003 Author Share Posted May 30, 2003 i guess nobody else thought this was a thought provoking quote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 I ressurect old threads so you will not have to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 You are just trying to lure j_b out of retirement. I applaud you for the effort, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pope Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 ... he said that he had sprinted to the summit for time, but then walked down. people came out of the woodwork to basically say "who cares what your time was base to summit, climbing is about the round trip, etc. etc."..... why isn't anyone asking "what's the point of a one-way ascent time?" And for that matter, why limit the scope of the accomplishment? I know a character who is tremendously proud of his round-trip time on the Denny Tooth, only he includes THE DRIVE FROM SEATTLE AND BACK. That's right, he frequently advertises his U.W.-Rock-to-Tooth-summit-and-back time. Apparently driving abilities figure in to his calculation for measuring the skill of a Cascade alpinist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucK Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 The Tooth is the best! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 I'll climb the Tooth so that you will not have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_Pi Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 Hello capitalist! This is not spray, I am new moderator and listen to me all posters!!! Thank you for allow me to post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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