catturdeat Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 I was thinking about buying some self loading camming devices. What kind are good? I want to get a bunch, but don't want to spend a lot of money. Thanaks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 Another Dru avatar for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 Unlike this joker, I can spell. If I want to insult you I'll do it as me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 Avatars are like split personalities. Some personalities can spell and others can't. Ask Joe Retard about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catturdeat Posted May 14, 2003 Author Share Posted May 14, 2003 catbirdseat said: Another Dru avatar for sure. Â Huh?? Â I'm trying to build a big rack, for climbing. I've heard that the Black Diamond company makes good SCDLs, some of them are big too. Does any one use those ones much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 These are excellent cramming devices, and they're relatively inexpensive and suitable to a broad range of things and whatnot. Purchase immediately for most effective usages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fence_Sitter Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 relatively inexpensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catturdeat Posted May 14, 2003 Author Share Posted May 14, 2003 I don't want a cramming device. What are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attitude Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 But you already have camming devices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglehead Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 SLCDs are gonna set you back no matter what kind you go. I have a full rack of BD, augmented by metolius TCUs, some Tricams, and of course, all sorts of passive gear. Go with what feels good to you. I like all my gear, and it is all useful, so I have no preference either way for Spring loaders Just make sure the pro you're using feels good to you while your feet are skating out of the crack, your power's fading, and your last piece is 15 ft away. Fun fun fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catturdeat Posted May 14, 2003 Author Share Posted May 14, 2003 Why do sprot climbers need SDLCs? If the Black Diamond crams are so good, why do you have some many? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 Wait, weren't we talking about Self-Loathing Camping Devices? Like the new Malden Bi-Polar Fleece? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 For info on Self-Loading devices you might talk to Trask and GregW about that. They have semi-automatics and such that can fire as fast as you can squeeze the trigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitten Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 I have found the Canadian dollar very nice. If you don't want to spend alot and add more - take a little trip to Vancouver & visit MEC. The night life can be fun too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 Dr_Flash_Amazing said: Wait, weren't we talking about Self-Loathing Camping Devices? Like the new Malden Bi-Polar Fleece? Â Good one, DFA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglehead Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 Excellent point. I've been wondering how to get these things to stay on those bolt thingies. There's got to be a better way Say, what are those bolt thingies for anyway? I never have anything I want to leave up there, so what's the point? Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A7U Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 (edited) catbirdseat said: For info on Self-Loading devices you might talk to Trask and GregW about that. They have semi-automatics and such that can fire as fast as you can squeeze the trigger. Â I also own only self-loaders. The cheaper and some of the older ones jam easily. When that happens, they hang. Lowering and cycling the action may clear the jam. Then you can send the target. Better-quality self-loaders have 2-stage triggers that can be adjusted to respond to very light inputs, so light that extensive practice under controlled "gym" conditions are required before you can release them under field conditions with any chance of sending the target. However, with careful, intentional practice, it may be possible to send a single 3,000 foot pitch with one pull. In the range of devices less than 5/10", some have sent pitches 3,600' but that's very rare. At 5/10", pitches more than 5,000' can go in one pull, but those SL'ers are inconvenient to rack. Edited May 15, 2003 by A7U Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordop Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 A7U said: catbirdseat said: For info on Self-Loading devices you might talk to Trask and GregW about that. They have semi-automatics and such that can fire as fast as you can squeeze the trigger. Â I also own only self-loaders. The cheaper and some of the older ones jam easily. When that happens, they hang. Lowering and cycling the action may clear the jam. Then you can send the target. Better-quality self-loaders have 2-stage triggers that can be adjusted to respond to very light inputs, so light that extensive practice under controlled "gym" conditions are required before you can release them under field conditions with any chance of sending the target. However, with careful, intentional practice, it may be possible to send a single 3,000 foot pitch with one pull. In the range of devices less than 5/10", some have sent pitches 3,600' but that's very rare. At 5/10", pitches more than 5,000' can go in one pull, but those SL'ers are inconvenient to rack. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 bunglehead said: Excellent point. I've been wondering how to get these things to stay on those bolt thingies. There's got to be a better way Say, what are those bolt thingies for anyway? I never have anything I want to leave up there, so what's the point? Â I think you put your pinky through the hole and pull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catturdeat Posted May 15, 2003 Author Share Posted May 15, 2003 A7U said: catbirdseat said: For info on Self-Loading devices you might talk to Trask and GregW about that. They have semi-automatics and such that can fire as fast as you can squeeze the trigger. Â I also own only self-loaders. The cheaper and some of the older ones jam easily. When that happens, they hang. Lowering and cycling the action may clear the jam. Then you can send the target. Better-quality self-loaders have 2-stage triggers that can be adjusted to respond to very light inputs, so light that extensive practice under controlled "gym" conditions are required before you can release them under field conditions with any chance of sending the target. However, with careful, intentional practice, it may be possible to send a single 3,000 foot pitch with one pull. In the range of devices less than 5/10", some have sent pitches 3,600' but that's very rare. At 5/10", pitches more than 5,000' can go in one pull, but those SL'ers are inconvenient to rack. Â This is very valable information. I had no idea that some gyms are so tall, where is the one you go to this tall? How much do this self locking cramping devices whey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 Un ban catturdeat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechristo Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 ... locking cramping devices... Â Are you talkin' 'bout female genitalia now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shapp Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 I hear that proctologists have some pretty good cramming devices for "caving", but they are kind of spendy $2500 for an exam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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