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Beck said:

Leather is a fine choice for learning, they WERE free, and he wants to try something different- why not?

 

You CAN ski leather in the steeps, in the deeps, they work just fine.

Mega bangs or TMex you will be doing a lot of ankle work.

 

many of you people who are anti leather probably have NEVER skied leather, or just gave up too soon and jumped into plastics. There are conditions i would want plastic boots, high speed lift serviced skiing, absolutely. A long alaska trip, or a big traverse here, yes.

a rolling terrain, messing around ski- tele in leather would be first choice.

I ski leather almost all the time. i wear plastics for high cycle lift serviced skiing. Powder days, leather. I've been telemarking since 1984 and can ski double black diamond runs, bumps, 50 degree slot couloirs, the Muir snowfield, you name it, in leather boots. Doesn't seem the boot is a limiting factor.

 

There is a certain feel from a leather boot that you cannot get in even the lightest plastic boot- sensitivity. You feel the ski better, you nuance the ski better, in leather.

 

I skied waist deep powder in leather boots, 200 cm old school straight boards, and a three pins only (no cable) binding this year, and probably had the most fun in the soft stuff ever! with this light, light setup- People on plastics are missing the boat when it comes to what a tele setup is all about.

 

 

 

You still lose Precision and things get sloppy when things are soft. no pun intended....

 

 

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It is a great feeling to softly caress the snow. I'm not always in the mood to fuck it. No pun intended...

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David_Parker said:

E-rock said:

Iain, tele skiing sucks. Unless you want to learn to develop an alternating rythm between arm flailing and punching the ground for balance, while whining "Wait up, wait up" to your snowboarder buddies who've ony been riding for 4 months, don't waste your time. Tele skiing is a pointless excercise in frustration and pain that turns you into a bitter, cynical snow-snob who never enjoys skiing except when EVERTHING is perfect (which it never is) and when NOONE is looking (which they never are, anyways because they're way ahead of you.)

 

That being said, enjoy. I love it more than anything else in the world. And leather is definitely the way to learn, but not the way to progress past a certain point (unless you are an exceptionally gifted athlete).

 

Erock, you are so full of shit or a weak athlete who thinks skiing is only done at resorts! Pull your head out of the snow and take a look around. I friggin' lap knuckle draggers except on lift serviced runs. Some people are willing to put in the time to learn something difficult. Snowboarding is for those who aren't.

 

 

David_Parker, all I can say is straight up FUCK YOU. I was joking, moron. Until last season I was on Kazamas and Scarpa doubles, touring every single day that I skied. This season I've done a lot of lift skiing, and realized that it's extremely important to look at yourself in a humorous light to enjoy the frustrations of lift-serviced skiing, because you CAN'T ski as well inbounds, period. People like you drive me nuts because you are obviously trying to prove to yourself that achievment on the boards somehow makes you a better person than others. Get a life mother-fucker, and take a joke even if it does make a little fun of how you appear to others.

 

 

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Pull your head out of the snow and take a look around. I friggin' lap knuckle draggers except on lift serviced runs. Some people are willing to put in the time to learn something difficult. Snowboarding is for those who aren't.

 

confused.gif I should assume your kidding, right? What an ignorant statement, f#@kin stereotypes. Some of us are out there on a single stick snowshoeing up with AT skiers and tele skiers, earning our turns. BC snowboarding isn't easy. madgo_ron.gifmadgo_ron.gifmadgo_ron.gif Sure don't see people "lappin" me when I'm out there, as a matter of fact I don't normally see anyone at all. Of course if you spend all your time around gaperville... rolleyes.gif

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erik said:

you guys are still talking about telemarketing?

silly!

 

Who gives a shit about tele. If ya want to ski lame ass slopes then go get tele gear.

 

AT Rules

 

Tele is so suck

 

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AlpineK said:

erik said:

you guys are still talking about telemarketing?

silly!

 

Who gives a shit about tele. If ya want to ski lame ass slopes then go get tele gear.

 

AT Rules

 

Tele is so suck

 

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Gawd. I could stare at that for hours mushsmile.gif

 

Oh, BTW, AT sucks ass fool.... evils3d.gif

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Maybe good but also maybe mildly poor, keeps changing. Snow level hovering between 4000 and 2500 Wed-Fri. Now it is supposed to clear Fri morn. Partly cloudy with snow along the crest. Avy (gross generalization/homogenization) moderate to considerable depending on where you are and when. It could warm up considerably during the day in some places. HWY 20 is open...

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David_Parker, all I can say is straight up FUCK YOU. I was joking, moron. Until last season I was on Kazamas and Scarpa doubles, touring every single day that I skied. This season I've done a lot of lift skiing, and realized that it's extremely important to look at yourself in a humorous light to enjoy the frustrations of lift-serviced skiing, because I CAN'T ski as well inbounds, period. People like you drive me nuts because you are obviously trying to prove to yourself that achievment on the boards somehow makes you a better person than others. Get a life mother-fucker, and take a joke even if it does make a little fun of how you appear to others.

 

 

E-rock, you shouldn't be so offended if people don't get your "jokes"! Sorry I missed it, but in the context of the thread, you were just like many of the others who seemed to basically diss the idea of learning telemarking. Your answer was worthy of spray and should be over there. And you shouldn't jduge me as one of "those trying to prove themselves as a better person...." You don't know me from squat and I find a comment like that as funny as your "joke." Maybe my problem is I don't know you well enough to understand your "humor."

 

My point was, I get sick of people discouraging people from trying telemark and you seemed to be one of them. I'm just a fun loving, positive person who is trying to encourage someone to stick with it and that imo it's worth the effort. I find a unique comradery amongst tele skiiers and I enjoy the instant bond in a sea of flamers. I actually find most to be really cool folks who don't spray about their abilities at all, who CAN laugh at themselves and like to encourage others to stick with it. Maybe they just get sick of hearing all the dissing about it from those who can't do it. We like what we do and we don't diss what others do. As Donald Sutherland said in "Kelly's Heroes" .... "so much negative energy!!!"

 

As far as leathers go, I ski both leather and plastic now and Beck is RIGHT ON with his assessment. I'm keeping my leathers for powder! If you learn on leathers you won't regret it. You'll get better faster.

 

Spray on!

 

 

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Cool man, Sorry to have been so pissed. I hadn't had my cup of coffee yet when I posted.

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Billygoat said:

Also, full moon Wednesday! If it clears up mushsmile.gif and fruit.gif Skiing at its finest

 

Amen!

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