Mountie Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 Just a heads up, the Everett Mountaineers will have a swarm of students all over Mount Si Saturday Morning. Good alternates are Mailbox Peak, Lake Annette, Rattlesnake Ridge. Sorry for the inconvenience. I'll try to provide a similar warning for future field trips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 Anybody who goes to Si expecting not to find people is confused to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwayner Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 Just wondering...what kind of student would you take on Mt. Si....walking students? What do you do up there other than hike a wide trail and then scramble around to the summit? Just wondering? - Dwayner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 I know the mounties do lots of hikes, in addition to climbs and more technical outings, so it's possible "students" just refers to everybody but the trip leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 Dwayner said: Just wondering...what kind of student would you take on Mt. Si....walking students? What do you do up there other than hike a wide trail and then scramble around to the summit? Just wondering? - Dwayner it could be like a conditioning hike and stuff. i have known people to train for future climbs, by hiking and stuff! have fun kidz! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 Hey Mountie explain the "face" in the Mountaineers logo!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 Dwayner said: Just wondering...what kind of student would you take on Mt. Si....walking students? What do you do up there other than hike a wide trail and then scramble around to the summit? Just wondering? - Dwayner I was wondering the same thing. That place is a bloody hiway anyway but nice of Mountie to warn us. I was there at the crack of sunrise last friday and still saw people in the parking lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_K Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 Its the Everett basic climbing class - a field trip to assess conditioning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 There are always some students who are not in as good a shape as they think they are. This hike can serve as a wake up call. They carry a pack equal to 1/4 body weight and have to get to the top in less than 2.5 hours, which is admittedly not that hard, but you'd be surprised, or maybe not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryad Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 Yup, Everett Mounties' basic climbing class conditioner. We'll be there starting at 6am, hopefully all gone by 1:30pm, assuming nobody breaks a leg or some such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinker Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 How big will your group be? students + instructors.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryad Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 Maybe 50 people total, thereabouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allison Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 catbirdseat said: 1/4 body weight Dang, that seems like a lot! Is this for the Army or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryad Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 Minimum 30lbs if you're puny, max 50lbs, 25% of body weight if you're in between. Sucks, I know. I'll be one of the dorks lugging my water-filled pack up that hill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 dryad said: Minimum 30lbs if you're puny, max 50lbs, 25% of body weight if you're in between. Sucks, I know. I'll be one of the dorks lugging my water-filled pack up that hill. hahahaha sounds like fun!? whats the overall objective? like in the end what are you training for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toast Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 allison said: catbirdseat said: 1/4 body weight Dang, that seems like a lot! Is this for the Army or something? Well, for an overnighter on snow (tent, stove, food, sleping bag, pads, climbing gear...) I know my pack weighs more than 40 lbs... more if I have my snowboard strapped on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 yeah 35-40 pounds seems like a reasonable weight to me. i bet there's more than a few people who over estimate their fitness. if it's a beginner course many of them may not have ever carried a pack of any significant weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 Hopefully they let you take the water out at the top to avoid the knee damage on the way down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 I took a friend and her beginner friend on a hike up to byrne lake this past summer. That wasn't the hike for a beginner. It was good training for me, however, as I got to jog up to the lake with my pack, drop it, jog back down and then carry her pack the rest of the way up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryad Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 JoshK said: Hopefully they let you take the water out at the top to avoid the knee damage on the way down? Yes, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allison Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 I know it is necessary to carry 40# for some things, but in many cases it is easy to be under 30#, including overnight stuff and climbing gear. I just hate to see people carrying more than they need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountie Posted February 28, 2003 Author Share Posted February 28, 2003 erik said: whats the overall objective? like in the end what are you training for? Catbird has it right. It's a wakeup call for students in the Basic climbing course. They won't go on any real climbs till June, but things like Shuksan and the local volcanos would be typical as well as one day, summer alpine stuff like SEWS, Kangaroo Temple, da Toof, Ingalls... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 allison said: I know it is necessary to carry 40# for some things, but in many cases it is easy to be under 30#, including overnight stuff and climbing gear. I just hate to see people carrying more than they need. Yup, Allison is right. The basic climbing course will teach y'all some fun stuff. But be sure to read up on various ways to save weight and effort as you gain experience. Once you start to know the mountains better, you can better judge what can be left out for weight and speed, but only experience will teach you this. That's one of my favorite things about overnighting w/o technical gear now...15lb packs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleblebleb Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 What the hell happened to limiting groups to 12? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toast Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 JoshK said: That's one of my favorite things about overnighting w/o technical gear now...15lb packs Pass on the secrets, dude. How do you get down to a 15lb overnight pack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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