bidbird

^Somewhere in the land east of Cle-elum....

You know I would love to do that, but my local store only has roughly 6 different shoes, none of which really meet my criteria. I could special order the shoes, but they don't take returns on special orders (So I can't buy two and return one)...

To give you guys a quantifiable measurement of "narrowness" most Brannock Devices list my feet as somewhere between A and B width. They also generally list my feet as size 11.0 though I generally wear 11.5 on the street.

A question for the rock gurus.... So I've finally come to realize that my old second hand boreal ballets don't really fit me that well. My feet are narrow and boreal's tend to be wide. As great as they are for cracks, I would like a better face climbing shoe. My criteria is narrow, flat lasted and reasonably comfortable. Suggestions?

Ouch... Sounds like you have a reasonable case for hit and run....

Rumors are true... Just called them up... Looks like they close in middle of March. Shame really ... I bet the bad ski season sent them over the edge...

Actually quite a few people PMed me on how and who to contact regarding my quest to find someone to teach me the skills I am looking for.

Thanks for the offer I'll keep it in mind.

I'll take your opinion into consideration... and indeed beer is a motivational tool...

Already own it... and read it, cover to cover on several occasions... I realize this post is a long shot. However several individuals were helpful and provided useful info on the local climbing scene and who to talk to. And to the haters, I thought I was being fairly reasonable, even being upfront and honest about what abilities I do and don't have. Hate if you must, we all have to start somewhere.

So after a couple year hiatus from climbing I'm looking to get back into the fray.. Specifically I am looking for a traditional climbing mentor, ideally I was looking for someone around the Ellensburg or Leavenworth area ( I go to school at CWU) to climb with on weekends ( edit: or tuesday or thursday mornings). I know the game... climbers are not the most altruistic bunch of people, I can offer a ride (if you live within a reasonable distance), carry the rope, be a belay slave, etc. If anyone can put me in contact with Fred Stanley or Fred Dunham that would be helpful. I been told they still reside in Ellensberg and "occasionally" teach people how to climb. My background in vertical climbing is quite limited, however I have a fair background in mountaineering, mostly non technical glacier slogs, and traverses, culminating in a traverse of the Coast Range (East to West) several years ago. Note: I do own "lite" sport climbing rack: a rope, harness, a set of draws, webbing etc. PM me if you can help me out, or at least point me direction of someone who can. best regards