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  1. Cheers Guys,. I appreciate the conversation for real. keenwesh, I will absolutely be thinking of these exchanges when we get another project underway. Its solid to know that you guys care so much about Smith, the eagles, and play an active part in the discussion, challenging me as I move forward. I am impressed for sure. If we get the chance to share a beer, its on me. And Joe,.. "echo chamber",.,.on the $$. We thought we were pretty smart at the time.(the time, time, time) My trad mentor said we gain good judgement by sometimes surviving bad judgement. Not an ideal way to learn, but we survive. He also told me to carry every piece of gear I own for the first 50 5.9's I lead,. I stopped at twelve or so,. Actually,..I can't say I have climbed 50 5.9's on lead,.,.Oh well,. I digress,... Its late,. And maybe he was exaggerating anyway.
  2. Again, Point received. I am still stuck on "paintings" i guess. The idea ranges from my love of ancient pictographs and pre "American" art. But I see where you are coming from. The goal is to get 12 pieces together and find a way to use the images for some sort of fund raising effort for each site, I actually have already talked to the Head Ranger at Smith about it. If my work was just meant as its seen, just a canvas on the rock,..Yes, pointless for sure,. Most things can be made useless if you simply break them down to their parts and remove all context from the experience. But you are right,. Its just a canvas on a rock to some people. The greatest insult an artist can register to someone is to answer when someone asks, What is that?,. We did really screw up in a few Huge ways, and I don't pretend to hide from that. But all told, I have to feel like the path is honest, not driven by anything other than a hope to do something meaningful with my work. Sorry you don't like it. When it comes to the Eagles,. Ignorance is no excuse,. I am the driver of the bus,. And I am not going to live that down. Nor should I. You seem like a good dude,. Your constant point to do something for my fellow man is well received,. I am absolutely listening,.
  3. Ok Team,. Let em fly,. I have read the posts here and so far it seems like you really feel like I am an asshole,. Sorry,. I am here now to listen and respond to whatever you might like to spray,. I even assumed a less than radical handle just for you guys. I take full responsibility for the events at Smith,. Yes, we fucked up with the airplane,. It was a guy we didnt know who was just doing us a favor by letting one of my friends sit in his plane while he flew around the park. Our part with the plane was pretty much sitting there with a camera getting some really beautiful shots of the park. When the AF and others brought up the birds we were jaws on the floor. We had the understanding from our Regional AF Rep that we had their blessing,. Sean was not making that up,. Some of us even coughed up our pancakes when we heard that we nest was right in the area the fella was flying. Again, I take responsibility for it, it was/ is primarily my project,.. Without a question we should have gotten permission for this,. I am still working on how to make right with Ranger Brown and somehow make amends for this HUGE error in judgement and ethics. The ONLY reason we fought the citations to begin with was because they were written from internet videos( some would say terrible videos) but internet videos nonetheless. Initially when I spoke with Ranger Brown I was heavy and more than apologetic,. It was only after curiosity landed me in a conversation with a lawyer friend that we decided maybe 600+ dollars in fines was a bit off,. Yes,. There is a bit of a smartass tone in the writing on our page,. the whole quote posted about staying in the park and breaking another rule,...Young School,. I couldn't agree more. We were excited putting this together. I can see very clearly how you guys must really think we suck,.., But if you can try to forgive the edit of the video and the somewhat grandiose and arguably self important tone, please try to accept that we meant no ill will toward the Climbing Community, or the birds,. I am humbled by the harsh tone of this thread. Please accept my apology for our actions at Smith and understand that we are just trying to have some fun and make some art. No stone was turned at Smith, no climbers were kept from the route, and nobody, park included even knew we were there that day,. I will try to respond to whatever venomous posts you may like to toss up,.. But try to make them constructive if you can,. I have gotten the point that you think I am a dildo already,. But it is a fun word to type,. so if you must. And Jon,...The Irony has been killing me for months.. Although there is no real proof of the Eagles, everyone has assumed that we are the cause, I own that tremendous Fuck up as well,. I wont hide from anything that anyone here wants to say,. I will try to let you all know next time I head to Smith for sure.
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