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Great idea - but do it BEFORE you get involved!! Once you're in the relationship, it's too late... No. Flat out wrong idea there sweety. Climb with me once or twice without kissing and we'll be normal climbing partners. "SLACK!!!!" will be considered normal. Start kissing and there is a 99% chance you will expect me to ask for slack like I'm sitting at the dinner table. "SLACK!!!!" will be rude, inexcusable, uncooth, blah, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah,blah, blah,blah, blah,blah, blah,blah, blah,blah, blah,blah, blah,blah, blah,blah, blah,blah, blah, and another thing.....blah, blah,blah, blah,blah, blah,blah, blah, and don't call my mother a...blah, blah,blah, blah,blah, blah, and I'm still mad at you for...blah, blah,blah, blah,blah, blah. But hey, you own the vagina so don't expect me to be honest about your expectations later. Just smile and wave as I go off climbing. How am I wrong? Sounds like we are saying the same thing. No kissing before climbing?

Ohhhhhh....I LOVE chickens! Great pic! - I used to have a bunch myself and that brought back memories.

Great idea - but do it BEFORE you get involved!! Once you're in the relationship, it's too late...

i think climbing can act as an amplifier for the state of a relationship, good or bad. there's also: "Why are you going climbing w/ your buds but not climbing w/ me?" "Is it because I'm not good enough?" "Is it because you don't love me?" and "Why do you get to go climbing when I have to stay home to take care of [house/kids/dog/whatever]" and "When I'm sick you should stay home with me and take care of me instead of going climbing" ... Yep, that's why I don't date climbers! I've actually said most of that before!! Now I'd rather find other female climbing/outdoor rec partners otherwise it is so easy to fall into that trap of expectations. It's good to share interests, so you can talk about the same stuff and share each other's passion for it, but best for each person to have their own circle of friends and activity partners as well. So I guess I would date a climber again, but just keep separate activities - just keep the pinnacle climbing with my SO indoors

aw, man, I was gonna send it...then I found out you're a climber afterall.

ah come on, yer just teasing! this non-climber can tell you are a ravishing young woman who has the common sense to stay away from the climber type! not that i have anything against old and fat, mind you.... Ok, well, I'm fat, old...and UGLY! i believe the time has come for you to PM me your photo. don't be shy, since i am not a climber. Show me yours first! it is hanging out somewhere on this website. ok, yer turn. Hmmm...you want me to go and search for it?

Sorry, no other avatars...I'm just an opinionated smart ass so spray is interesting to me. I really spend more time reading TR's than spray tho'.

ah come on, yer just teasing! this non-climber can tell you are a ravishing young woman who has the common sense to stay away from the climber type! not that i have anything against old and fat, mind you.... Ok, well, I'm fat, old...and UGLY! i believe the time has come for you to PM me your photo. don't be shy, since i am not a climber. Show me yours first!

Lemme see it just to be sure...

ah come on, yer just teasing! this non-climber can tell you are a ravishing young woman who has the common sense to stay away from the climber type! not that i have anything against old and fat, mind you.... Ok, well, I'm fat, old...and UGLY!

note my cryptic profile - all on a need to know basis

Don't be a tease, c'mon, dish! I'm not that mean...he's on this site everyday (several times a day).

Well I'm really fat and old...does that matter?

sorry bug, I don't date climbers anymore

You guys are actually pretty funny. I first checked out this site cuz my (then) boyfriend wanted me to check out all his TR pics so I could see what a stud he was (but then I got to know him and learned that he's not, really, though he is a good climber). Now I check in anytime I need a good dose of juvenile male humor (and I mean that in a good way, seriously!) or to drool over some of the awesome TR photos.

Rather, think increased demand for grain and grain-fed meat from by China and India as they are definitely better off now. Check out www.fieldsoffuel.com - awesome documentary about the biofuel (and fuel sources in general) situation coming to a theatre near you soon (just won the audience award at Sundance). My brother co-produced so I'm inundated with this stuff right now. The Seattle area has 41 biofuel stations in a 10 mile radius right now! Check out http://findbiodiesel.org/US/WA/ That is so huge - there is no reason everyone shouldn't be driving a diesel run on biodiesel right now. Even Wenatchee has a biodiesel station! We have to get off foreign fuel sources for good. Biodiesel seems to be the best solution.

I'm from Yakima and went to CWU. PM me if you want info about the lifestyle there, etc. Totally different world from the Westside of the mtns.

I'm no expert, but I've heard that's just what happens as you get older - gravity - and that most adults see an increase in shoe size by a 1/2 to a whole size, runners or not. I'm a runner and my shoe/boot size is a full size bigger than it used to be, but I have no arch issues or other complaints.