IceCap

twocents - did the previous threads conclude that his shoulder dislocation happened on self-arrest during th descent?

I found this website through cnn and I'm not really sure what is going on with the flying cats. I am a little scared of this "Spray" forum as they're talking about "craping on Baby Jesus"??? I have been intrigued by this story for days. Last night I was hunched over my laptop playing the videos of recaps from CNN and reading lastest news on the climbers. My husband thinks I lost it. I think it's because i see pictures of these men and they seem like the guy next door. I have come to the realization that all of these men died and became famous (not really sure that's a good word) doing what they loved. I look at pictures of these mountains and the scene is so serene...no wonder climbers literally risk their lives to bask in those moments on the summit. No one will ever know what exactly happened. It is pretty amazing that they all made it to the summit. I would love to see the pictures that they developed. Speculation becomes old but I have my 2 cents worth - I think Kelly James dislocated his shoulder before they reached the summit and they helped him to the top. I also believe that Jerry and Brian feel off their snow cave which is why one glove and ice picks were found (everything the sheriff communicated). Did one fall before the other? It really makes no difference, they died doing what kept them alive - I might actually close down my laptop tonight and find closure in the sheriff's latest briefing that his A team did their best...damn.