Rafe1234

Seriously? Rock and Ice and climbing are crap. As far as advertising creating climbing communities, that makes no sense. The internet, for better or worse (probably worse), has much more to do with modern climbing communities than anything else. You don't think that the rise of, and subsequent advertising of companies like REI, OR, Black Diamond, Mont Bell, The North Face, Prana, just to name a few....or climbing gyms.....have influenced non-climbers to become part of the community? I think that there is a great deal more inlfuence there than you realize, and it makes perfect sense. The internet is a place for people who already climb to come talk to other people who climb, but most of it isn't constructive to climbing...like what we're doing right now.

Rock and Ice, Climbing, and the Alpinist are cool mags. The establishment and growth of modern climbing communities is largely due to advertisement. Climbing is a personal adventure of body and mind but as a culture, business motivation has had a significant impact. I wouldn't change the culture or anyones community even if I could. I'm happy that there is so much development and so many people to share to love of climbing with.....and sponsorship is a part of that.

The wall is called Refrigerator Wall and it is on Deception Pass State Park land. Two guys named Leif Johnson and Andrew Sell developed the routes in the 90's. Most of the routes are in the .12+ range and higher. Two easier routes are located on the right side going at .10+ and .11a

Maybe they're just too hardcore for it and its "out"

Wtf why do i always have to horizontal scroll to read telemarkers posts.

Try Garrett Grove. He does sick photography work of baker....Hes got a page on the interwebs too

Oh shit I thought it said the perfect crack.

Has anyone seen this? They got a $60,000 grant from King County to build this wall that cost more than $150,000....In NORTH BEND! Planners of the wall wanted to attract climbers to North Bend....Brilliant!! Leavenworth should build an artificial boulder field at the Icicle/HWY 2 junction. Get some climbers out there too..

Very impressive Sol and Jens. Your ascents are stoke to the fire.