Frikadeller

I have never "Ice climbed" in my tele boots, but I have climbed the old PG/Hogsback route (Before the Hogsback shift) in them, and well.... With a stiff crampon I suppose it would work ok. But why beat around the bush here, just get an AT set up, and you can ice climb just fine in AT boots. Or Better yet, a Splitboard with Mtn Plates and AT boots... (Oh I almost forgot, a splitboard is not a serious mountain tool, according to some super enlightened folks around this website. )

Oh I see. We call it "break spot #3." Spot #1, Silcox hut Spot #2, Top of palmer lift. Spot #4, Hogsback Spot #5, Summit. At least that's how I like to break down the slog up the SS. Usually a good place to stop and smoke a camel, drink some water, and down a cliff bar or such.

Sweet line. Looks like fun! So, if flotation is required, what is happening here? So only one smart person brought skis? Sometimes, as a selfish measure, I chuckle inside when I see people wallowing up the triangle moraine while I float on by on skis.

I was about to ask the exact same thing. From his pictures, it looks like the flats around the top of Triangle moraine.

I skinned up from government camp to the top of palmer on Wednesday, and it was a perfect day for climbing. I saw a couple of people coming down from crater rock. I think that weather window has lapsed though, and it's snowing. You know, you can always check the timberline web cam to get an up to the minute view of the current conditions.

Whoa. How many FireFighters do you need to get a dog out of a river?

Could you imagine seeing a howitzer shell exploding ahead of you as you are approaching the climb on the Wyeast face!?!

Well, considering that the freezing level has been above 6500', I am gonna say it probably will not be much better on the lower stuff. I doubt you will be able to skin from the parking lot. Higher up, though, you might find some nice goodies. Go check it out, and post a TR. From my house in Portland the whole Mtn. is white (except for the east ridge, as usual) so...

Scrambling, hiking, skiing, slowshoing etc are all worthy of TR's. Some of us like reading them for conditions beta, etc. I could care less if you "climbed" the route, yet gave fantastic approach beta, pictures of a route etc. After all, isn't that what a TR is for? Oh I forgot, this is a 'climbing site", so some people need to post TR's to puff out their chests....

Further up the White river canyon there are some sweet lines, when the snow is good. Alot of it is pretty avy-able terrain. I tend to head there in the spring on huge snow years like we have had the last few years.

I guess I won't be poaching the canyon for a while. That stuff looks like a bitch to skin up. But then again, they will (meadows) probably send their grooming machines downs the to clean up the mess asap...

Hmmmm... All of the sudden some guy in Ridgefield is sellng a bunch of "brand new" gear on craigslist... http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/spo/1557677245.html http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/spo/1557710018.html http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/spo/1557720626.html Does any of this stuff look like your shops stuff? Especially the post about the cams. The guys is selling 4 whole sets of cams brand new. Maybe I am just leary...

I use a OR Basic bivy. I don't think they make it anymore, or maybe they just call is the Aurora. No pole, so it lays right on your face when you have it zipped up. That kind of adds to that "sleeping in a body bag" feeling. I have never used it in heavy rain, so I never got too much condensation in the thing, and it is pretty big so you can stash stuff in it like boots and water bottles etc. The only real pain is that the zipper is only at the head end, so you have to shimmy into it and out.

Yeah, no problem glad my shitty TR did not affect your day out on the lady. Looks like you had a good time.

I have two helmets. One is just a regular Petzl Elios ( I think) model. It fits really well, and is a plastic shell. But I recently picked up a different helmet because it is rated as both a climbing helmet and a ski helmet (the CAMP Pulse) because I tend to do more ski mountaineering than rock climbing. This helmet is also one of those foam covered with a thin plastic shell types. So far that one is working out as well. Especially it's pretty much the only ski helmet out there that has headlamp clips!

So here is my question, (since Graham is involved in this thread) I am interested in checking out a Cilogear 40L pack. Can I come by the Factory, or do I need to find a retailer to look at the goods? BTW, I am local to Cilo ( I am in PDX)????

Believe it or not, it actually is. The supply register is above the ski ticket counter. I have seen people in sleeping bags there before.

You would think that that the Timberline Management would notice that people are in need of that bathroom. The door looks like it has been kicked in a few times in the past. Sometimes it even smells like piss in the "cave".... I wonder if Ivan is responsible for that.

DUDE, where have you been. There IS a HOT TUB there. You just have to look carefully, and about 100 yard further up the parking lot. You might have to jump a fence, but it's there.

Well, I think she mostly played games on her I-Nerd Fone... But, if she got involved in the Special Olympics and Beer, she was not sharing that info with us. I was just getting a chuckle watching them Slednecks argue with one another on how best to launch their beasts up the fold down ramps into the trailers though.

Yeah, when they make that utopian boot, I might just buy a pair. Until then, I will keep up the convenience of my AT boot. Each to their own, so if the straps work for ya, then ROCK it.

Trip: Mt. St. Helens - Worm Flows / Swift Glacier Date: 1/3/2010 Trip Report: Well, so me, a buddy and his Girlfriend decided to go harvest some goodies up on the Worm Flows today. We headed off to the Marble Mountain snowpark, and arrived around 10 ish. Here we where greeted by a plethora of slednecks, all with their giant Pickups, and equally giant trailers. One trailer even had a neato decal on the back claiming to be "in search of snow"... Anyhow, we geared up, stuck skins on our sliding gear (AT and Splitboards) and set off on the trail in the mist of blaring expansion chambers and the sweet smoke smell of 2T mixed with castor. The trail is completely snow covered from the parking lot, which for some reason is only plowed half way? The trail in the trees is pretty straight forward, and the normal fare. only one tree trunk is laying across the trail, which is easily stepped over while skinning. We got above the trees, and all looked like some marginal coverage. Snowpack must only be about a foot and a half deep in most places. The East ridge is still rocky and bare. We skinned up to about 4000' when the Female companion of my buddy started having some boot issues. (new boots, probably need to get them molded), so she decided to head back to the car, while we cruised up further. Got to about 5500', when we decided that perhaps if my buddy would ever like to sniff the place she... Ahem, to keep a good relationship with the domestic unit, we should head back down. The snow was, well, pretty marginal, and heavy. Not the best ski ride of the year. I was able to snowboard all the way to the parking lot on the way back, and caught a sick rail slide on the downed tree across the trail near the quarry. Once back at the lot, we consumed a beer, and put away our wet gear, while watching the "put the sled back in the trailer" special olympics that was going on. Damn those guys are funny when they drink too many beers and try to sledneck. Sorry, no pictures. The camera is on the fritz. Gear Notes: flotation devices recomended, unless you like stumbling through snow up to your knees. Did not encounter any ice, but there may be some higher up, so bring those pons and axe if you are looking for the summit. Approach Notes: Snow all the way from the parking lot. Parking lot half plowed. Road 83 snow free all the way, with a few small spots of ice.

There is also a Youth Hostel in Government Camp. I think it is only $20 a night, this might be cheaper than the Mazama Lodge. http://www.international-academy.com/accommodation/mount-hood-hostel

I agree, and that is sort of a "pie in the sky" type of equipment. I suppose that one could say that the current "spot" tracker does this to some degree. But it would be cool if it could also track and search another unit just like a avy beacon does. Maybe in the future the technology will be there for such a device. The current is not that time.