Crampon

He's right.

So what qualifications are required?

I dont know how to use a map..........Thats right, Thats been my downfall my whole life.

I knew I wasnt stupid, but I felt it...........Glad we can agree to a point. There are places on Rainier that a 30M is perfect, but I avoid those spots due to traffic, and prefer the north west side of the hill where its a bit different.... By the way......I like French Fries.....

Um ok, so who do we call?

Im sure this post will get his eye....... Thank you though.

This is why we dont like your horrible food..... And another thing....Why be just subjected to a ZC? There are tons more ya know, perhaps they havent been translated into french as of yet.

LOL.......This armchair career of mine is a pain. BTW You can't affect me.

If you can prove to me that 30M is just perfect for a 2 person team that is capable of assisted rescue from the anchor side, and is enough rope to perform a 6:1 system in ANY terrain... ...then I will cut my 50M to a 30m.....But for now I will be proving your theory as a risk, and is at the same level as just carrying 12 oz of fuel for a 3 day trip...(which is possible)...,but why skimp...?

Question.....What happens when you partner which has fallen and stretched out all 30M of line ends up with a broken leg and cant do anything for himself......... Where does this light and fast approach make sense?.............How do you get him up.....And good climber has more rope than 90ft for the rescue portion of the climb..........There's the 30M limit.

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I was asking for UTM's , not various life lessons on Compass use thank you..... Now if you dont know where to get the UTM's then thank you.

Very true MM, thats why I am so curious.......

Bloody French...........

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Just an ignorant question here....... What gear do climbing rangers carry, whether it be style of crampon, or packs, perhaps anything that makes their job easier on a routine rescue of an injured climber. Does the park sevice supply some stuff, or what are the things they have the option to supply themselves....stuff like that I mean. And final question......What are the minimal qualifications for this area of service within the NPS?........Are they Paramedics, or are they just Emts and so forth. And their climbing qualifications, and how you go about qualifying as one. I have spoken to several people, and we all share the same inquiry......And would like to know who it is that makes decisions whether we live or die....Sorta speak. Thanks

The Quote says it all OLY..............................................

If you were new to an area, and had no clue, or worse, had no friends, or relatives, and just some people on the internet that might be sincere............you guess, You guess.

Before.....And yes...I need luck.

ok........ i'll show up anyway now.

Jesus....Im serious....I just moved here....damn!

Damn......Stolen gear hurts dude.......Im sorry It happened to you. And if it ever happened to anyone of us......It bites bigtime.......Lets be cool to the dude,

OK......Can I come to 38th steet aswell?.............Never been there..........What are we doing in terms of routes that night..........Sorry...Im an alpine climber.......Just wanna indoor climb with friends....lol

I hate this thread now.........:"How about setting up a climbing gym function or whatever I sad to myself"..........But naaaaaaa, I came and I did this......Damn.......Sad

Bloody hell......lol...................I just want a friend. Climbing clubs are like Jack Lalane,(meat markets sorta), bars are like rock gyms.....I just need new friends, and dont wanna get them 6 rounds of beer and end up in bed, cause that not what its all about.....I aint like that, I refuse to be.!