roboboy

micromanager types deserve no respect, in my book.

just always agree verbally with what he says and do what you want. an ignored boss is usually a harmless boss.

Not really but I provide great utility in belay practice.

...and which gym was that, by the way ?

CBS is going to do Women under X at Vantage after we enlist some climbing students. I'm not sharing any more sources.

since when WASN'T this site creepy ? since when was there much info here that COULDN'T be found SOMEWHERE else ? I'm ready to go to Stone Gardens and hide.

Thinking also of the female person who might want to find out the best place to go exercise with her peers. Seriously.

...in the interest of generating marketing data for the owners...

There seems to be more younger women at climbing gyms than regular health clubs, like 24 Hr Fitness. There also seems to be a higher ratio of women to men at climbing gyms, but not necessarily more women than men, although that actually could be true, I haven't checked. Cascade Crags is small so it's hit or miss on any night. I think Stone Gardens is more fun than 24 Hr since it's climbing and that's what the objective is anyway. Discuss.

I didn't say that I didn't like the post, I actually found it to be interesting.

The best way to find out is for ChrisT to go visit knotzen in person and say and for ChrisT to report back what knotzen's response is. By comparing that response to the online response we will have the answer. So should ChrisT bother ? No, because online is a lot more convenient and no one really cares THAT much. And besides, if we didn't have "online" this issue never would have come up in the first place, so why is it even an issue worth contemplating ? - That's easy - post spray and reread what we write. - pawns of internet technology - to have fun on weekends - wherever the conditions are good that weekend - he's making a serious attempt at it but he's too bogged down in incompetency.

Oh yes, I remember that, before the days of cc.com.

that's what I always thought you really did together this summer.

And you shall receive a cc.com honorary PHD in thick skin development.

for Gary, that is...

doesn't sound like a fun day

Gary who ?, anyway

one to bail out a failing student, not one of ours.

sounds worthy of a mathematician's PHD thesis.

The northwest doesn't seem to be that much of a dirt bag climber locale, like, for example, Yosemite or S. Cal. Places like Marblemount or Leavenworth would be hard to hang out at, on the cheap, year round and why would you want to? So you have to have some amount of $ to be here and that usually takes a job no matter what you do in your spare time, be it golf or climbing. Unless you are really short on dough and you are here, in which case you probably wouldn't pursue either of those. An exception is students who may be broke but are going in debt to be paid back later with a lucrative career using their hard earned degree in, say, Philosophy. If the career doesn't work out they flee their collection agencies and become dirt bag climbers in Yosemite, not here.

Frankly, Mr Shankly, this position I've held it pays my way and it corrodes my soul I want to leave you will not miss me I want to go down in musical history - The Smiths (something along those lines)

That's the hard part.

I thought anyone was entitled to hold their own.

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