Snafflehunter

Anyone know of a good deal on a pair of Quarks? $490 is kinda steep.

Klenke has it right, that's definitely Phelps with the big rounded dome. Klenke, don't you get this view from your apt?

Shitty. Anyone else have a pair of Quarks for sale -- at a comparable price?

I (first pic) = baring

Still have these Charlet Quarks? I'll take them if you do! Send me a PM or e-mail to tsjolseth@hotmail.com

W in 04! Oh wait, he already won.

I have only filtered my water two times in the twenty years I've been climbing in the N Cascades. I only used the filter those two times because the water source was a pond and my partner happened to have a filter. I have been sick once from bad water (still not sure what it was, because I didn't go to the doctor) but do believe it was worth it to not have to carry a filter for 20 years. I believe filters are a serious waste of weight. That's just my opinion though, and you know how those are.

Now that is a logical argument. Who could refute those facts?

Funny how we don't hear Republicans whining like toddlers when the Democrats win a tight one. An interesting paradox if you ask me.

I guess smart is all relative though, right AlpineK?

That's pretty cool. And I'd just like to add that from what I remember from my climb of Golden Horn, it actually has some pretty solid rock by Cascade standards. The (North?) Face looked pretty solid and slabby.

Lowered to $70 firm for the tool AND adze replacement.

Go for it - have a circle-jerk with like-minded people. You'll never need to feel threatened - or have to think. Kojak, it's neither your ideas nor the way you present them that bothers me. It's the sheer number of posts (7 out of the first 15 on the last page) that I object to. To me it's not unlike TV commercials, shopping at malls, or listening to commercial radio...I just don't need to have that crap pounded into my brain every other post. I know that folks such as yourself get a little excited and can't help prattling on just to hear yourselves talk, but that doesn't mean I have to sit hear and listen to it or read it. It's easier for me just to turn off the TV, listen to NPR, and ignore people who, IMHO, over-saturate this (CC.com) entertainment media. Nothing personal, I tune out chics who say the same things over and over, too....but at least they can be fun when the lights go out and the music's too loud to hear them yakking. The reason he is posting so much, sphincter err Thinker, is because it takes that many posts to respond to the predominantly liberal posting population on this message board. It's pretty easy to just skip over a post isn't it? Many could avoid the needless step of having to put someone on ignore by merely skipping to the next post when you see their name, but being the Thinker that you proclaim to be, I'm sure you've already thought about that.

A sad way to go. "Rocky Mountain Rescue Group member Kevin Harner said it's the first climbing death from asphyxiation he's ever heard of." I guess he's never heard about a climber being killed in an avalanche where the climber was buried alive in the snow and subsequently died of asphyxiation??

What's "refreshing" about it? It's the same old speculative, subjective, disrespectful, left-leaning propaganda that we've been reading since the war in Iraq began. I think it's time for folks to accept that war is ugly and support the troops who are over there risking their necks so we can sit here at our desks and spray on cc.com all day. The following quote is symbolic of the typical liberal attitude: "I didn’t shit the bed so I have no obligation to clean it up or sleep in it." But you have every obligation to bitch and moan and complain about it at every opportunity? Am I the only one who sees the irony in this? All of this IMHO, of course.

CBS, put it back in your pants! Sorry, Klenke .. I couldn't resist.

I believe Klenke meant specific instances of constitutional violations. You merely restated the 6th Amendment. if you can't think of it then you are completely and utterly stubborn, or in denial. waste of time If it's such a waste of time to explain your opinion, why are you sitting here wasting your time posting nothing? rrriiggghhhttttt........grow up man Just curious .. how aren't I grown by asking you to elaborate? Maybe you're all mixed up? Or perhaps you listened to your campus buddies too much and jumped to the same conclusions they did without taking the time to think everything through?

I believe Klenke meant specific instances of constitutional violations. You merely restated the 6th Amendment. if you can't think of it then you are completely and utterly stubborn, or in denial. waste of time If it's such a waste of time to explain your opinion, why are you sitting here wasting your time posting nothing?

People who haven't a clue what they're voting about shouldn't be voting in my opinion. Therefore, forcing someone to vote who doesn't know shit from shinola about current events and the candidates they're voting for is a stupid idea. IMHO of course. Besides, wouldn't this make us .... fascist?

I believe Klenke meant specific instances of constitutional violations. You merely restated the 6th Amendment.

I agree 100%. BTW, hi Klenke.

Matt Anderson and co. climbed it free and they rated the crux rock at 5.9 (if I remember correctly). But I don't think they were wearing rock shoes and it's all above 20,000 ft. Yikes! Something to add: Don't count on lines being fixed if you plan on summitting prior to ~October 28th. Sometimes they are fixed as early as October 15th, sometimes as late as November 1st. It's all going to depend on the weather and how motivated the Sherpas feel.

It really depends on who you go through to get your permit. 1 permit allows 10 or so climbers (could be 12), so if you can find someone who hasn't filled the max, then you could get on for ~US$500 per person. Add to that the cost of a liaison officer (US$2000 per team) and a garbage deposit (US$2000 per team - refundable after your expedition), and you can do the math from there. I would encourage you to look at getting on someone else's permit to save money obviously, but it isn't always possible. Try Henry Todd, or Dan Mazur -- those guys have teams up there every year. Do a google search. I think my entire trip (as a member of an independent team) cost about US$5000, but that included RT airfare to KTM, hotel accomodations in KTM, the round trip to Lukla, nightly stays in tea houses, sherpas, and porters. I was in the Khumbu region for just over 5 weeks total. If you need any more info, feel free to PM me.

The ropes are fixed by Sherpa or guides, but they use last year's ropes to fix the current year's ropes. In 2003, a German guide was climbing less than 500' above me while on the SE Ridge of Ama Dablam when one of the lines he was jugging on suddenly broke in half. The guy was trying to fix lines for the season (this was ~October 20th) when he fell. It turns out the line he was using was placed seasons prior, and it had been severely deteriorated by wind and blowing ice/snow. As for the technicality part, I didn't find jugging up the fixed lines was very difficult, but after witnessing that accident it became more of a mental thing for me.

Notice the ascenders. The climb is technical, but most parties elect to ascend via fixed ropes which takes a lot of the technicality (and in my opinion, fun) out of it. Nevertheless, an awesome achievement.