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  1. But, imo, that is a minor point of the article compared to the issue of the distribution of wealth worthy of the age of the robber barons and how it has been hidden from sight by indebting people (and making a killing in the process).

     

    i'm not quite sure if anything has been "hidden from sight", as you say; i've read somewhat regularly about wealth distribution in main-stream zines (although you do say it has been hidden from people by "indebting" them, which i can't say i understand).

     

    also, "indebting people" (within our current economic structures) isn't done without the compliance, to a large degree, of the very people being indebted. what i don't like is when the argument is framed as if the poor helpless americans have no choices about their finances.

     

    having said that, i'm not particularly a fan of an unfettered capitalism. having a limited fungible commodity (money) so unequally harvested and collected and hoarded by so few does not set up the conditions most conducive for collective well-being.

  2. the US now owes far more, as a multiple of the economy, than at the start of the Great Depression.

     

    that sounds dramatic, but is that the best comparison point?

     

    As of June 2009 the debt was 82.5 percent of GDP based on current GDP. This level of debt has not been seen since 1951, with the nominal value the largest in recorded history.

     

    link

  3. [speaking of "Resistance"...

     

    Haha.jpg

     

    Gets better every time....

     

    it only gets better cuz it's so real world descriptive. i can't tell you how many hippie types i run across who try to keep GM foods out of the hands of the starving.

  4. So, if you had exhausted all legal avenues, you would just give up? Wow.

     

    i don't think anyone is saying that; they are saying that legal means must be extinguished before attempting your solutions.

     

    what's the saying? young, something something and full of ...."?

     

    bad for thoughtful action , but excellent for military commanders.

  5. For all,

    Any safety gear no matter what is the testing agency is not fail proof…the way I see it one will pay for the connivance of having the gear and not manufacturing it. one can always climb Elbsandsteingebirge style where making the “gear” and” testing” it is up to the individual. It is not that I give the manufactures a tickets for lower their QC all I am saying is that one cannot blindly trust anything one did not made, inspected and tested throughout its manufacturing process and life. The method of redundancy while placing gear is there for a reason the method of old school of the leader should never fall is there b/c of hard lessons learned…even with individual testing (of every piece) methods for half strength it still will not be fail proof… I wonder how many pieces were subjected to 2 or 3 half load testing before metal fatigue or how many half loads testing on the same specimen will accrue before failure and where the average failure point/s is/are …

    As far as the manufacture liability concern…same oll story we have laws and regulation to obey by so whatever is their claims and advertisement they will held liable against it with help of a good lawyer…still till the next red flag will raise and it will… one should use judgment and caution when trusting their life or anything to that effect.

     

    Choada_Boy...here is another one ...go for it

     

    i am happy to say that i walk away from this post with some solace: solace that this post is so lacking in sanity that no one can be swayed by it in any way.

  6. Liar!

    http://www.hlc.org/020108.pdf

     

    "In 2005, Britain's misnamed NICE agency (National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence)

    proposed that the government ration health care (i.e., withhold it) to seniors...Some British doctors now advocate barring operations for some: the elderly, the obese, heavy

    drinkers, smokers. While it's unfair to tap taxpayers for treating the consequences of individuals'

    poor choices, this kind of rationing could prove a morally slippery slope..."

     

    umm, that was in 2005, and it said rationing was "proposed"; was rationing in fact implemented?

  7. First of all what "catastrophic insurance is a complete bullshit. It usually includes at least $5000 deductible and no medications are usually covered by it. So what is it supposed to for? So called "catastrophic" insurance is a complete fraud. If you really need any medical treatment it will not pay for 75-90% of your bill. So if you have even 50 grand in medical bills it won't make any difference in the amount you have to pay off.

    Second, 47 million people did not "opt" to have no insurance. It's a choice between housing and food vs insurance.

     

    you might be mistaken about "catastrophic insurance" policies, or you have looked at policies which i am unfamiliar with.

     

    most of these policies i am familiar with have a high deductible, a certain percentage copay for hospital visits or other procedures, with a cap on maximum out-of-pocket costs for policy holder (always(?) under 10 grand).

     

    correct me if i'm wrong.

     

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    My ideals are simple, my mind is not.

     

    if you didn't make statements like the following, i'd believe you:

     

    True, but only one truth is necessary for the forced outing of a leader and that is the overstepping of his duties and rights as leader of a country. This has obviously happened here and revolution/ coup is the only cure.

     

    remember, you did say you knew nothing about the legality of the forced removal; you might investigate this first.

     

    Our forefathers warned of the dangers of leaders overstepping their boundaries and gave us fairly explicit instructions how do deal with them.

     

    tell me how our forefathers codified processes for the removal of a president who overstepped his or her boundaries; i believe it had something to do with "impeachment", yes?

     

     

  9. Not knowing the particlulars of the Honduran constitution, I cannot assume whether this is constitutional or not. The legislature seemed to think it was. The only person that I KNOW broke the law was the former president for his disregard for the constitution of Honduras and the faith of his people.

     

    yes, assumptions can lead one astray, and, being the sincere seeker of truth that you are, you would come to an understanding of the entire situation before jumping in and supporting one side or the other. it's the only way a just patriot can ever act, because once convictions based on truth and justice are lost, all is lost.

  10. Not a coup. A constitutionally ordered arrest and deportation. Congress is in charge.

     

    now we've really moved into the field of speculation (based on our political leanings).

  11. I can only assume that referendums which nulify parts of said constitution are foreign to any constitution.

     

    i'm not sure, but if you are right, the articles of impeachment would seemingly come into play, yes?

     

    it seems that if indeed one is concerned about the unconstitutionality of the president's actions, one would support a constitutional approach to rectify the situation (since one exists; i think we can all agree that a military coup is decidedly unconstitutional, yes?).

  12. Voting takes place within the confines of a Constitution and follows certain rules spelled out therein. Those rules are inviolate absent the steps required to change them. The Honduran president was trying to circumvent those required steps.

     

    maybe you can cite the relevant passage in the honduran constitution which specifically prohibits referendums? i tend to agree that constitutional changes through a referendum process is probably a bad idea, but your righteous vitriol indicates a level of expertise with the honduran constitution which certainly allows you to educate me.

     

    also, my limited understanding of the situation fosters a belief that the honduran constitution allows for the impeachment of the president; wouldn't you support the legal removal of a criminal president, versus the illegal removal of said president?

  13. The constitution was voted in by congress that happens to represent the interest of the oligarchy (2 rightwing parties have dominated politics since the return to civilian rule). It seems a little circuitous that congress declares the people ineligible to vote on their form of government. The majority of Hondurans are extremely poor and less than 50% vote for their elected representatives, which combined with a required 2/3 fraction of congress to amend the constitution means the status quo is almost guaranteed.

     

    when was the constitution in its present form voted in?

     

    in the US, we cannot change our constitution through referendum; i'm inclined to think i'd rather not have it be malleable enough to be subjected to the whims of the general public. i'd think that in honduras, the solution would be to get better voter turnout, yes?

     

    and, would you really want to see an entrenched president (here or in honduras) winning term after term? we both know what kind of advantages incumbents enjoy (think ronald reagan and the talk about a constitutional amendment).

     

    why not let the people vote on a new assembly instead? what are they afraid of?

     

    ? i think they have a "functioning" democracy, where the people are free to vote on whoever they wish, right? now if you're talking about a "referendum" on constitutional changes, see above.

  14.  

    WTF - Kimmo, do I agree with you about something? This is unprecedented!

     

     

    :confused: i thought we were in full agreement about you being an overly wordy pedant and nincompoop? i suppose it's easy to miss during these highly technical and sophisticated musings at cc.com.

  15. What's so wrong with calling a national referendum to vote on the possibility of a 2nd term that it'd justify a military coup d'etat?

     

    leavng aside any justifications for a military coup for a moment, my understanding of the situation is that their constitution explicitly forbids multi-term presidencies, along with ANY ATTEMPT AT CHANGING THIS CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISION.

     

    so the supreme court and congress both deemed Zelaya's actions to be unconstitutional, seemingly a rational assessment.

     

    But, is a military coup "constitutional"? They have constitutional recourse; namely, impeachment. hopefully the outcome of this situation will include the restoration of Zelaya as president, with LEGAL challenges to his actions.

     

     

  16. the lines between "western" medicine and "alternative" medicine have blurred over the last few decades, and i think this is a good thing.

     

    there are MD's who are also ND's, and more and more doctors seem to understand that it doesn't so much matter whether an approach is "alternative" or orthodox, as long as the one who is seeking relief from a particular set of symptoms gets better.

     

    BTW, i only fly on the astral plane. see you there, buddy.

     

     

     

     

     

  17. I think one variable to this conversation most of you are not talking about is that you can treat any of these sicknesses that you or your children can get. So, you don’t necessarily have to pump your children full of vaccines solely because your western medicine doctor tells you so. The idea of prevention is not the only way to live. Just a thought.

     

     

    this is true for some of the illnesses that we vaccinate for, but certainly not all of them. you or your kid do not want to contract tetanus and polio for instance (ok polio you won't get unless you travel cuz it's eradicated in the US, but tetanus is pretty horrendous); you probably don't want pertussis, cuz it's a pain in the ass for everyone (sweden stopped vaccinating from what '78 to '96, and there were thousands and thousands of cases, but only one fatality per year); and then hib-caused meningitis is shitty etc etc.

     

    and yeah money is involved, but you can't discount all vaccinations because pharmaceuticals push hard for sales. don't throw the baby out with the bath-water.

  18. kimmo will be keeping her child in a bubble so that it never faces even the remotest possibility of physical harm. psychological...well living in a bubble will do that to you.

     

    no, i'm going to take the opposite tack and ignore all potential harm, cuz it's all overblown hype anyway. sheesh, alarmists.

  19. Kimmo, since you're so concerned about mercury, I'm assuming you won't be feeding tuna to your child, ever? Or, possibly, even ANY fish?

     

    jeez, there are fish that excede EPA safety levels in a single serving. shark and swordfish i think? some tuna is up there too, so indeed there will be little consumed at this household.

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