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seems like another tired reference to Damn How-ja-do-it from his debunker... i guess someday i'll be a cool insider like everyone else here

it really isn't that funny.

The story gets darker...this just off the wire... Cheney posing with his trophy lawyer...

I think the hunting story is just a cover up for what really happened... Lord Cheney tried to turn the good Jedi Harry to the Dark Side. Jedi Harry refused and a great battle ensued. ... but Good Jedi Harry was no match for Lord Cheney and his minions...and was shot in the end.

It's not really funny... but it is,too. http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/12/cheney.ap/index.html

What Dave reads on the shitter...

So I guess Daddy Warbucks is trying to get the guides thrown in jail cuz his kid died on Everest six years ago... What a total crock of shit. I bet the Daddy would have sued for his money back if his kid didn't top out too.

Yeah, i'd second that. I tried the PNW thing from '00 to '02 and I was "off keel" after that first winter ,for sure. My bro has lived up there for ten years and he loves the weather and has no effect on him. Hits some and misses others. Within a week of moving back to CO, the winter blues were gone and have never returned. Cured by sunshine. If you are one of those hit hard by it then you should really think about living elsewhere... in the sun.

it will cost $5 for the answer...

PMS

my equipment sucks!!!!

suck it up, fags. 2nd place for you.

then i'll be the first to poop on this thread...

i just want to be the first to piss on this thread... this thread

take your own medicine, dude. How many threads have you asked to be deleted cuz you don't see them as worthy in the past week? I've come across 3 but I read about 2% of this site.

I don't now if that was him or not but I think most alpine climbers have very short term memories of suffering/loss to the point of a flaw. No matter how bad it was, it always seems that in a year or so the mountains pull you back.

The lottery is an option during the high use period from late may to september 3rd and you do need a permit to launch. After and before those dates it is first come first serve. They open that up in Oct the previous year to launch. Or you can do what I have done and just wait til summer and pick up cancelled permits. The later in the season ,the easier it is to pick up a permit. If you are going to climb in the lower canyon then after Sept 3rd is the only good option because before the 3rd you are only allowed 1 night after you cross a certain point. Link to the red tape... http://www.fs.fed.us/r4/sc/recreation/4rivers/index.shtml

If you ever look into the 'expedition' type rafting/kayaking then check out the middle fork of the salmon in idaho. The last 25 miles has more untapped rock than you can shake a stick at. Only way to access it is via raft. No trails in the lower canyon. A climbing /fly fishing buddy and I have taken 2 trips down there and there is some great rock down there. The best plan would be to go in september when the camping restrictions are lifted for the lower section too. The catch is you gotta have damn good low water reading skills and row class IV.

" Despite his late introduction to the sport, Shimer is a dedicated, almost maniacal convert. Bear in mind, this is a guy who borrowed $21,000 from a friend to buy a used bobsled-and then convinced his dad to take out a second mortgage so that he could repay the first loan. And this is a guy who dumped a girlfriend in favor of the sport. "I mean, I loved her," he says. "But I really love bobsledding." " from cnn link

TB, The mp.com site is not really new. climbingboulder.com, climbingmoab.com and many other very popular sister sites like these have all been pulled under this one roof now. I'm sure they are running on their own server which is allot more than $20 a month. Also, these guys have donated allot of their time, energy and technical skills to a good cause. Let them have a beer and pizza on me, ya know? Plus, even if they did make money on the advertising and contributions ...who cares? Why is that bad? Do you piss on the authors of paper guidebooks too for all of their hard work and slight them for profits of their labor?

my babel fish tells me "recluse" is probably "soloist"? you need to feed your babel fish better and then it will translate better.

dude, these guys are all volunteers and saved a valuable resource from oblivion. I even put up a thread about doing a paypal donation link for users like this site does and they shot me down. it's a great colorado(and beyond) resource done by climbers for climbers. As the link shows,they are adding in stuff for the PNW. It's resource that is only as good as it's contributors. Look through the Colorado section to see what's possible...rock, ice,alpine beta and pics in a pretty organized format. Dog them for paying the bills if you want, ya know? Would you feel better if these guys just paid for it all out of there own personal pockets? Also, it's never going to replace CC.com because rule#1 is clearly stated when posting: "Don't be a Jerk".

i don't know your reasons for changing your user name and don't care...but do you realize your previous name is still in your profile?

he won't be showing up anytime soon... i took care of that purple pansy a while back.