ashw_justin

You misquote me. It was a question, not a presumption.

"Ridiculously easy" is relative. If Peter Croft walked up and was so exceedingly polite that he asked if he could solo Karate Crack while you climbed Right Slab Crack with a rope, would you really tell him to fuck off? Well is Karate Crack really free-soloing? It's not THAT high off the ground. But for some other climb, that depends. I would want to know if he had climbed it before, and if he hadn't, I would want to know that he was aware of the grade, and that it was within his abilities. I don't think anyone would try to free solo under different circumstances, but if they were, I would want to know so I could get the bandaids ready...

Alpinfox: I'm not against free-soloing. Free-solo all you want. I'm against anyone not taking responsibility for splattering their guts all over me and my rope. Do I threaten you? Bring it bitch... The rest of you: I have free-soloed, do, and will in the future. As will I run out climbs above shit gear if I have to or feel like it. But this notion that it doesn't affect anyone else complete bullshit. "If you don't want to pick up the pieces then don't..." You have no idea what you are talking about. Is that the kind of person you are? Would you really just say "Oh well, I hope someone comes and cleans this up sooner or later" and keep climbing like nothing happened? You might say yes just to disagree with me, but I ask you this: how do you know? Have you ever been faced with something like that? It messes you up. Anyway, your surprisingly prematurely-ejaculative hostility is pretty funny, but I guess this is the spray forum, so giz away...

Given that free-soloing is pretty much the ultimate in self-centered climbing I don't find it at all surprising that free-soloists don't give a single thought to how their potential jibbing of themselves may affect others. And no, I will not leave, I was there first!! I'll just wait until they are several feet off the ground, then begin a conversation-- are they an organ donor, do they have any bloodborne pathogens I should be aware of, which dismembered body part do they want me to try to find first, can I have their stuff when they die, etc. etc. Because really, isn't my relentless banter just an aspect of my climbing style and the way I like to climb? My choice, right? Not affecting anyone...

My day would seriously become less fun if I had some dude splatter into several disgusting pieces right next to me. Yeah, I think the guy is definitely involving you in any potential accident. How would you feel looking into the dude's eyes as he struggled to keep his internal organs internal? Think about it. That would f#@king suck and I really would rather not have someone burden me or anyone in my company with that possibility. That being said, if the climber is on a ridiculously easy route and looks bomber, I wouldn't be too worried. If he was asking me permission in any way I would want to know if he had done the climb before. If he hadn't, I would politely offer to give him a belay, otherwise f*ck off and solo somewhere else.

I'd say if you genuinely feel that there is something the rest of us should know about this place, and you think it applies to the rest of us, and you think that posting here may either make things better at the shop, or help us avoid a particular problem, then go ahead and post. (How's that for a bad sentence?) As readers, we ultimately make up our own minds. I mean, why do we even have a "Local Gear Shops" forum if nobody feels comfortable criticizing?

Well if the cache was say, a set of cams, and the scavenger hunt led you up a 5.11 alpine multipitch followed by an A5 traverse, then a rappel off of a single questionable piton, maybe it would catch on here..

...KEY?!?! I want a key! or is it "key"?

My "fuss" was that I said "I discourage going left" and things got little interesting... but most of what Cave and I said was fair, and still informative. I just wish that those who didn't really have any reason to be posting had kept their mouths shut. You know who you are.

You should have seen it before we got all our posts wiped out... I even got accused of namedropping... And now it looks like I just got reamed by some old-timers for no good reason. Guys, just because I am relatively new to this forum, doesn't mean I am completely FOS. Ok? Being a whitewater kayaker for several years I know my river shizit. I thought you guys had actually been there this year, otherwise I would have called BS right away. Flood events change river crossings every year.

Huh, we never saw anything like that. When was that photo taken? Maybe there has been some high-water alteration to the riverscape, resulting in some of the recent confusion.

OK let me try to do this is a non-offensive manner (after getting all of my posts nuked): Beware going too far left after crossing the river as you may end up in the Roush Creek drainage... if you climb more than 300 vertical feet without finding the trail then head to the right toward Eldorado Creek, as the trail follow Eldorado Creek up to the boulder field. Due to blowdowns and flood effects there are several small forks in the trail near the river. One such fork passes right by a very large boulder, which is a little ways upstream (to the right) from the river crossing.

Just like in Vertical Limit!! Man, I told you guys all that stuff was real...

So how long do you think it will be in primo skiing conditions?

Yeah but when your sponsorship depends (at least in part) upon your physical attractiveness... racoon-face ain't gonna help. Although I will definitely be looking forward to the before/after pictures.

I can only imagine what an Everest expedition would do to such a soft and fair complexion... I'm sure we've all seen Touching the Void by now? Somebody get to work on a photoshop prediction. Or maybe she has one of those special climbing suits that lets you get a full-body tan while climbing?

I wonder if they even have mahlt licka in New Mexico...?

Cool, take some photos! I thought "all you need is a continuous line of snow" (something something) c'mon man I'm sure you could cook up something involving railings and mahlt licka.

Yeah but could you tell them apart?

hmm but my musical interests are probably more in line with hippie skiers, I listen to way too much Bob Marley, Death Cab for Cutie, Sonic Youth... but some rap still sneaks in there sometimes. So, how 'bout them SW chutes? I can't wait for the roads to open up.

Well it says "Black Prophet" on it Well the shaft itself is more like 41 cm long, I just assumed they rounded off to the nearest ten or something. So maybe I'm not measuring it correctly.

oh and it's straight shaft, not carbon

I'm trying to find the list weight of my BD Black Prophet tool, 40 cm shaft, hammer attachment. Anyone? thanks

yeah just drive up in a pickup truck with custom suspension blasting some neo-buttrock like tool or linkin park, wearing a baseball cap backwards and talking on your cellphone, then they'll think you're a 'biler.

yeah well you need to come next time, and bring your cams, because I've always wanted to rock climb in my plastic snowboarding boots with a splitboard on my back. (Just think how cool the photos will look)