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Stopped in after work. Apparently the sale ended on the 30th. Lame because they stil have the same scraps in the back but now back at the marked up price. Lame.

Altimeter and Barometer are essential. Electronic compasses aren't much good. The alarm on every watch I've tried is so quiet that they never wake me unless there is no wind.

They're pretty cool. Sticky rubber combined approach clmibing shoe. You can loosen the laces for the approach and cinch down the toe to ankle laces for your climb. I probably wouldn't want to use them for anything above 5.7 though but thats just me.

Y'all need to pry yourself away from any Mexican Restaurant that serves those big Gatorade style margaritas (Azteca) and go to one of many authentic places in this area. Agua Verde is for yuppies and is anything but authentic (tasty but pricy though). Go down to White Center and try Taqueria La Fondita #2 for starters and try some good and greasy carnitas tacos. If you want to sit down go down the street to the Del Rio market where its as authentic as it gets. You can also stock up on tacky ceramic Tweety birds and other silly things people are compelled to buy when they go to Tijuana.

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Thanks for this tip! I ordered them and they just came in the mail. They are Stubai Ultra Lights, everything is identical except the strap is a different color, and they are from a company called "Red" that makes snowboard accessories. They must have contracted out with Stubai to have these made with their own name on them is all I can think. A hell of a deal at $48. They even come with a crampon bag which is probably more bulky than I would ever carry but may come in handy for something.

Anyone have an opinion on this biner? I am replacing a bunch of heavy shit this year and the price and weight are right-on for these. They are 30g each!

The Nike alti compass is the model I have, I like the features more than my Suunto. Easier to read, see, hear, the buttons are good with gloves on too. There is an anti drift computer function that makes it more accurate than other barometric altimeters, none are perfect though. You could skip the compass feature though, I never use electronic compasses.

This sucks, two accidents in a week! by the end of the week I predict that Ken Schram will come on TV and start demanding that nincompoop adrenaline seeking junkies be responsible for their own resue costs.

http://seattle.craigslist.org/bik/30134956.html

1) Why do I want to drag beig heavy crap into the mountains (unless I'm a Mountie?) So you can see it at 2:30am and so you can actually find the buttons when you are cold and tired and don't want the instruction manual. No shit sherlock, I said it accounts for these things separately "Patented Zero Drift technology - provides extremely accurate altitude information, virtualy eliminates barometric drift." This is the one I am talking about http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=34043967&memberId=12500226 You can change the battery yourself too. All I'm saying is I like it and it works better than other altimeters I've used.

Just received a new Nike Oregon series alti watch as a gift. I also have a Suunto (whatever the one everyone else has) watch. The Nike one that I have is actually fairly big (same as Suunto about) but thats a good thing in the mountains. It is a bit heavier than the Suunto, its metal. The buttons are stellar on the Nike watch, not hard to find like Suunto. I think they would be easier to use with gloves on too. So far (its only been a week) I noticed a real big difference between the two and thats the altimeter accuracy. Leaving them both sitting on my desk this week as the weather changed, the Suunto did its usual gain of about 300ft due to higher pressure, while the Nike watch stayed about the same. I guess they have programed the thing to account for barometric variation differently from altitudinal variation. This is a major improvement as far as I am concerned and I will probably use this watch from now on. Maybe these newer really expensive Suuntos have this built into them. I was skeptical about a Nike watch at first too but its not like they are actually making it, its probably made by citizen or timex. In short, this watch rocks!

SPAM SUCKS!

tons of climbing shoes still, and all the La Sportiva climbing boots are going outhe door too. Got a rope and an extra axe. There are a ton of harnesses too.

Yep, seeing that makes me break into a sweat. Its a lot easier finding your way through that mess going down than up thats for sure. We took a ton of time going up through the debris attempting to kind of follow what we thought was the trail, but it was just really brutal. Definitely if you have to go up that route stay way to the left (right when going up) until you are above the avalanche path. Best to just do the whole traverse and you'll only need to descend that sucker.

I doubt that with the exchange rate for the Euro right now that anyone is saving any money by buying from over there. Its not even a deal to go to Canada any more.

When I said "fanatic" I meant anyone who is reading this thread. People who spend every weekend at a TH. People who spend time thinking about this subject, etc. It has nothing to do with $ really. These are the people who will go to the mountains no matter what. Whether they display their Northwest Forest Pass with pride, or they park down the hill a bit in protest. It is the casual user that will be turned away. The fee sucks, period. And its unnecessary. You wouldn't charge for a Library card would you?

First of all I would like to request that the moderator please post some spray, swearing and meaningless catcalling, otherwise the fine reputation this website has worked so hard to develop is likely to be tarnished. Not everyone who uses our public lands is a bulletin boardsurfing, $1500 gear / year buying REI yuppy (yes I'm making fun of myself). The consequences of this mindset extend to the casual user. What about the family who goes on a once every year or two mini-road trip over Snoqualmie pass and wants to run his kids legs up the PCT for 15 minutes? The fee creates a divide, or a fence if you will, which will definitely discourage casual use. While you may think that $5 is not much for a day, it will discourage that family from pulling over and checking it out. I can hear it now. "Let's pull over and check out the PCT, I've heard you can hike up it a ways right off the highway here and we can stretch the kids legs out too. (At the TH)Oh the sign says we need some kind of pass, something about a forest office or something, where do I buy this? Oh, honey, they want us to go across the highway and pay $5, lets just stop at the outlet mall in North Bend instead" Ok its a dramatization but you know its true and the trails and forests / deserts wherever are theirs as much as they belong to outdoor junkies who follow access issues and buy trail passes at REI. The creation of parking fees creates an undeniable fence which will separate the casual user from the wilderness fanatic(us). I would guess that the "casual user" group would have more people of low income than the fanatics.

I got this in an email response today! "Although the bill passed, I share the concerns of several other members who believe that the Energy and Natural Resources Committee should consider a more comprehensive recreational fee program that would cover all federal land agencies." I know that you people who are supporting this thing have good intentions but you should really consider the ramifications of starting a system where you need to pay for something you have never had to pay before. You mention maintenance, and I say what maintenance? Volunteers already do almost all the trailwork currently. This thing will barely cover the cost of enforcement. If you have a popular trailhead on a weekend day in the Summer, and have say 50 cars parked, revenue at best will be $5 (daily fee) x 50 = $250. How much money do you think it costs to hire the FS Ranger, pay for signs, provide the Ranger with a Good Vehicle, provide the Ranger with all the other benefits associated with the job (health / life / disability insurance, retirement plan, etc), not to mention the cost of following up on citations, etc. The cost could easily = $250 if not more. Keep in mind that that revenue would be for a BUSY WEEKEND DAY! I think we really need to look hard at this and see it for what it is, a scam. I know that many of you get a warm and fuzzy feeling when you get the pass and feel like you are somehow "helping" your favorite resource, but I would encourage you to take another close look.

http://aaronsauto.com/used.htm Aarons

I see a lot of conflicting information here and I guess I would like to stir it up a bit. Last week there is the post about how the bill didn't get renewed, and today I find out that the price has gone up to $85! Its getting to the point where you need to bring a lawyer to the th with you.

http://www.fs.fed.us/r6/feedemo/worp/index.shtml This REALLY SUCKS!!

So is this thing really history? I would have thought there would be a little more dancing in the streets!

Are those the new ArcTeryx "One Size Fits all" bib, or are they the old fashioned ones that actually have a specific size?

Just got them last week. They are indeed "Intuition" liners. The cut for the foot is a little wider for snowboard boots though and they are cut so that they have more of a traditional shoe tongue (two cuts down to the toes), rather than the single cut(wrap style) for the climbing ones I've seen these days. Not sure if there is any difference in the grade of the foam but for this price its worth the experiment. I need to try the instructions for heating them and fitting them to my Invernos.