Dumpster_Diver

Howdy padnas! What do I know about technology? Not much. Why doesn't someone tell me why this thing sucks or why it's so good? I thought it would be a nice addition to a trip up way north. You know, when splitting up teams and ferrying loads across a glacier. http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?storeId=8000&catalogId=40000008000&productId=47469270&parent_category_rn=4500600

Cyndi Lauper, Celine Dione and Dixie Dykes remind me of the saucy shit I took this morning. it didn't take much to squeeze out.

Hey there people! I see some of you practice shoot the messenger. Well that's ok since I don't have to report to any of you know it alls. I figured I would just pass it on since somebody would eventually. Later on maggots.

So very true it seems. There was also notes that this type of activity would persist for this entire year 2003. We'll see what other summit registers get hit up.

Maybe one of ya oughtta check it out for yerself.

I climbed up the Cascadian Couloir of Mount Stuart last saturday. Pretty windy and cold up there this time of year. When I gazed at entries to the summit register I saw one that was referring to a certain female on this site. I'll spare the name and just say that somebody don't like one of you self proclaimed hot climber babes. Chow.

Everyone should go to Snoqualmie and climb water ice. I hear it's all in there.

And some not so anonymous My name is Sprayshaw. I am anonymous. Alchoholics Anonymous

Kicking Horse is also in the Alaska Range

Sorry I never clarified what I was really questioning. I never did see what was the diversion for the water. Sounds interesting to say the least. After the confrontation to Bernard from the big watchdog who is just an innocent standerby for the most part, I can only say that I doubt it will occur next season unless it is approved beforehand. My thoughts still stand that if it was some guide service that might screw up our access to good ice then we should make it known our thoughts. I'm a member of the Climber's Access Society of British Columbia and have passed along my thoughts to the appropriate people.

Somebody said it was solid for bouldering so I had to ask.

Just curious to the thoughts of the good route. Good position with solid rock, and great moves or something else?

Is Vantage solid?

Parked in front of the TV set , the climbing gym, or a nice spot for skiing

Good rock. Hmm what is good rock? Lots of interpretations of that come to mind after discussion with other folks.

World Class is merely an opinion. But since were talking about opinons I'll give mine The Cascade Range is close by for me, offers a nice variety of rock and routes. Although a variety of big fat plastic ice next to the road is not a reality most of the time climbing here is just as good as any other range. Let's talk about bouldering because I don't really understand what makes a bouldering destination world class. What does? Problems rated V12 in every nook and cranny? Not being a smart ass but bouldering appears to be a sport that can be done almost anywhere rock exists. There's a lot of rock in them thar Cascades I could go on but let's get this started

You must be lying Currie is a wimp mountain by the way. Must have been beginners

Lambone I don't know why you say that. I spoke with Bernard just briefly and he was intent to pass the info along. Apparently someone knows who did it. Let's get something clear though. I never said it was good or something to condone in the future. If we can remove it and get it behind us then great. The comments about guide services diverting the ice are interesting and possibly false too. If in fact it turns out to be that some guides fucked it up for the rest of it then I am all for making this public information.

That might pose some different controversial discussion Either way my thoughts are to pass it on, remove the diversions and let it be if we can.

There shouldn't be a prerequisite for someone in the news to climb before they ask questions here should there be? It's a funny discussion now. This raises other questions though. Should they get their info from other sources? If so does anyone have a great consistant source to point them to and why? My guess is that people reporting news on climbing accidents prefer to report the proper information but often make errors for reasons beyond their comprehension or knowledge. That does not necissarily make them bad. Let it fly now!

Best thing to do is pass the word along to the bad doers , having them remove the diversions and keep climbers reputation good people under their book. Besides it will make the other climbs way fatter hopefully. Burning bridges is not a good idea for future access issues and other reasons. I bet the guys that diverted the water had only good intentions in the first place. Also I see no need to bring these bad people's names or intentions public.

Neither. Either kick some butt or beg for a quick death.

I definitely never admitted or claimed to be the expert on the subject. I'm right there with you and was only offering food for thought. I just figured some of my remarks were valid from someone's point of view and that it also let's us know how tough those old guys were. I've seen some slides of guys doing part of that trip a few years ago and it looked fantastic. They needed a gps to find the route What's the best time of year for that thing anyway? What do you guys think are the most worthy and\or attainable summits for the regular party? I'm not taking any hobnailed boots either.

You are right it's way too complex to comprehend what I wrote.

So well put Juanita.