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  1. idea Best clothing for cold, wet weather?

    I dont go out much during nasty cascade weather. When I do, usually it is a day trip in winter. The worse I dealt with is rain going to snow when going up higher with wind. Also I have been out a few times in winter in the very cold windy white mountains in the the north east. I have found most waterproof breathables in time saturate with water inside out and outside in, if in rain and wet snow long enough. It takes much body heat to dry out saturated clothing. I have had my clothing saturated wet and a good synthetic puffy over it all , and feeling very cold, and very glad to be on a day trip. I have found couple of ways to deal with this situation. One way is to use waterproof non breathable outer clothing, or breathable rain gear that does not hold much water inside it . Hike with minimal under clothes. When at camp. Shake out shell gear and hang up or put away somehow, this shell gear is not saturated , since it is not permable. Put on warm camp clothes and keep these dry. In morning put on shell gear and start moving and hiking again to be warm. Other way is pile pertex method or (wind shirt with fleece). Even though pile pertex will get wet in time. The pile next to skin will wick away water from the skin to keep you warmish and dryish. At camp it would best to have a OVER rated sleeping bag and a semi breathable (something like goretex in effect) inner bag to go inside the sleeping bag to prevent saturating the down sleeping bag with water. This will enable you to safely dry yourself out in a few hours. I do not favor wool anything it's too slow to dry out, most any synthetic is good, no wool socks or gloves for me either, they rarely dry out, where as sythetic items are usually dry in a few hours. If raining really hard can throw a rain jacket over the pertex. If the rain stops or mild enough body heat can dry out the pile while hiking. In any case have a good shelter with a sleeping bag at least 20 degrees over rated for expected tempature , along with a semi breathable membrane on the insiide. The down can pass a slow amount of moisture over time with a warm body inside. One may be able to use a SOL breathable 5oz bivy sack for this usage but I have not tested it. I have used a stephensons warmlite sleeping bag which has this semi breathable inside fabric built in, works very good. Why isn't this copied?? I have been out in my stephensons bag in winter and very wet, After warming up I would fan the extra wetness to the outside out the top of bag and after a few hours be bone dry. The goose down perfectly fine. Best to test such things out in a safe situation.
  2. idea Best clothing for cold, wet weather?

    Great write up. Some thoughts. Police strength pepper spray can be up to 5 times stronger than bear spray, The gel spray may be better than fogger? I like using a wide close cell foam sleeping pad. I set up my pack to carry it on the outside on the side , vertically. Carried like this it is not so much a pain in brush , dont need a ground clothe. If on a budget any larger silnylon tarp works well as a shelter for most mild weather. I have a 10ft square tarp with ultra light lines, 6 stakes , less than 1lb 7oz. Use trecking poles to set up. Use head net and net clothes or regular clothes for bugs. (Note, a larger flat tarp can be used in bad weather with knowledge, can fold it in a pyramid shape, or bring all sides to the ground, or if in snow dig in, etc. If tarp is small, set up options are less, I suggest a bit larger flat tarp for safety) There are good tarp tents and shaped tarps on market, many made in the usa by cottage industry. Check them out online. I recently picked up a black diamond beta light tarp shelter for worse weather. 1.5 lb including stakes and guylines for two people, packed size same as water bottle, I shall see how it works. Feathered freinds jackets are great. Use mine for good weather forecasts. If on a budget any lightish jacket will do. On a budget thin nylon chino stretch pants work very well. For just in case rain gear "Rain O2" works great, but not very tough for brush, however nothing is lighter or more breathable, and they are fairly cheap. I bring the jacket for good weather forecasts, the pants likely too fragile to bring unless staying on trail. Reactor stove is great for melting snow, other wise any quality canister stove works great, a cheap one should work fine if on budget. The breathable SOL bivy sacks work great with sleeping bag under a tarp if want aditional protection. Can carry with you when leave base camp. Any quality 20 to 30 degree sleeping bag works for summer apline and a bit into fall and spring. Geigerrig water bladder system with filter is the best/lightest water system I have found for me. Lately I have been exploring pile pertex clothing for truly nasty weather. I have the montane extream smock and bibs, I use them as over clothes for winter , they are heavy and bulky but the the best I have found for drying you out warmth. Too heavy for hiking in , unless very cold. Im thinking of trying lighter weight pile pertex clothing some day. One could use a wind shirt, and wind pant with fleece or pile thermal under with similar good effect, if on budget. Good day !!
  3. To live is to climb. Don't F up!! https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=5fa_1512223489 Imagine this in bad weather.
  4. Water Filtration: is it necessary?

    If interested, some trail and home remedies for intestine bugs, or food poisoning etc. Non herbal tea, green tea is the best, make it strong and hot, keep drinking until feel better, strong like four tea bags in a cup. (Note: Drink tea like the locals when overseas for your belly. ) Mainly for food poison, but helps for critters. Activated charcoal, little capsuls , can find in health food stores, very good for food poisoning or other poisoning, but even helps against the critters. I carry some every hike. NOTE , Activated Charcoal will absorb out medications as well. For intestine critters certain herbs or herbal tinctures. Primarally Black Walnut hulls, Wormwood and Cloves, take as directed. For critters, not for food poisoning. ( One can take a one time dose of tincture one teaspoon/tablespoon on empty stomach , but likely to get VERY stomach sick from such strong treatment, may do a couple days if feel the need.) Stomach or intestine viruses, can try food grade iodine in water and drink. May also work for other bugs, iodine is used to treat water, same idea but inside your gut. For critters. If you do such treatments suffering likely to be much reduced. As compaired to doing little to nothing conventinal treatments. Likely to be feeling well in few hours to a day or so, verses much longer. Dont forget these treatments or suffer and worse yet unable to move yourself effectivly. A most powerful quick acting treatment mainly for food poisoning but will help with critters. Take activated charcoal powder, remove from 5 to 10 capsuls , place into cup. Add in green tea, make it strong, bitter strong, add in boiling hot water, let steep around 5 to 10 minutes stir every now and then . Cool enough with cold water to be drinkable. Stir and drink this until you feel better, if you puke it up no worry keep drinking, do more cups if needed. This is not for unknown chemical poisoning but will work well with most anything else. This can take a sick like your dying event, to feeling much better, IF done quick enough.
  5. I think most of us solo 3rd to 4th class rock at times, or get on steep snow etc .Often enough on poor quality rock or soft snow etc . At some level there is no โ€œthemโ€ and โ€œusโ€ it is only us. Even just hikers get on sketchy ground. Best wishes and a prayer.
  6. Pushing one's limits is very personal as my limits these days are "bottom feeder low" compaired to most. A top climber in form, their limits can be much above the average. In any case fame is fleeting , I personally strive for boring climbing stories and suffer the weight and expense of an inreach. Bad luck with weather or bad luck in general can do in even the most cautious climber or hiker. Wish for the best...
  7. I used this setup a lot for the last two summers, late spring to early fall. Worked well, most of the time did not need the weather protection due to good weather forecasts. The few times the weather was mildly bad it worked great. The nice thing is being in the back country and while looking for a camping spot this kind of set up is a lot more easy to find a place to camp, most of the time. Uneven ground is no problem the covered space is so large that one can place the center of the tarp on a rocky spot or lumpy area and have enough of two spots for two people to lay down. It works pretty well on sloping ground, it works well with the door opening sideways to the orientation you are laying. Several times I used this setup where it would be very difficult to use a floored tent shelter. It does cover a lot of area, but this has not been a problem to date for me as the sides tend to go over objects. I personally like to use a closed cell foam pad that is fairly large as my pad / ground cover 24" by 70". One can use a pad inside the bivy sack or a ground cloth of some sort according to personal preference. I had only a few slight storms in this setup, once we had a good forecast to do the Ptarmigan Traverse last summer. But Right at the middle we had a mild wind storm of around 30mph winds. We ran out of time and camped on a very rough rock section that was sloping, impossible to use a tent on that spot, we would have had to camp on snow if had a tent. We had our heads uphill and the doorway to the side of our sleeping orientation. At that time I had a 8x10 ft tarp. The wind roared somewhat that night and the tarp flapped like crazy but we were fine... This type of shelter gives a different experience, which can be interesting in of itself..
  8. Check them out when they are in Costco, they are made of nylon and spandex, super thin and light and fairly tough. They are a great lightweight hiking or climbing pant for uphill cold weather approaches and for in general cooler weather, in hot weather I prefer shorts or zip offs. They shed light rain and dry very fast, the material they are made of seems like magic to me, (but I have not experienced much of the higher end pants from climbing companies). They are almost like long underwear for your legs in function, but are in pants form with pockets. They do not have lower leg zippers but are stretchy enough to pull over boots. I had leg zippers installed on a pair. If you tend to run warm to hot while moving give them a try, around 20 bucks at Costco when in stock, they should be back in this spring sometime. Dan
  9. A basic two trekking pole setup I use most of time. I usually put the front pole upside down, pole tip up through tie in loop. Other pole the tip down, the pole up under center of tarp. Depending on weather the outer sides can be up and airy or down low for bad weather. If bad weather try put the open front on other side of the direction of wind. One can drop the open front down low , even down to the ground if weather is really bad and if tarp big enough. However I mostly use this set up as a fair weather shelter low chance of rain, as normal with most hill walking. But it works great for rain with bivy sack (with milder winds), but take extra care not camp in low areas(flooding). The larger tarp gives extra protection. This setup is far better than a tent when looking for back country campsites. This setup is not for if expecting very bad weather. When leaving camp leave or bring trekking poles as desired.
  10. Is nw hikers website down??

    Ok nw hikers is back, the global conspiricy against me is illusionary .. ๐Ÿ˜
  11. Is nw hikers website down??

    Curious ? is nw hikers website down now?
  12. Is nw hikers website down??

    Just wondering if it is censorship or coincidence? Since this is "spray". Question?? Can mankind handle democracy and real free speach? Or only a type of republic///dictatorship and controlled illusionary free speach??? Sadly i would have to bet on the 2nd choice , and it is a choice.
  13. Water Filtration: is it necessary?

    If you decide to fliter, a Geigerrig pressurized bladder with a filter, (I use a Sawyer) has an almost zero pentily in weight time and bulk. System works good just lube the fittings with dielectric grease and an extra fitting just case one breaks. Time to fill bladder is exactly the same, time to drink the same, time to fill cook pot a bit more , extra weight only a few ozs. Extra bulk , about the size of a fist. Dan
  14. Fresh toe warmers do work, old ones do not. Make a big difference, also may check on heated socks as an alternative. Old toe warmers loose their strength sitting on the store shelf. 6 hours of toasty toes per install, do some testing to see if you like and concur.
  15. question Alpine, ice climbing pack

    Any of the adjustable frame packs made for climbing may be what you want I have the Mystery Ranch one, Osprey makes one, I think Gregory has one. I prefer the design where you can put a close cell foam pad on the outside of the pack, on the side, not bottom. The lighter made packs can be painful with a +/- 30 pound load, so I went to the mystery ranch adjustable framed pack (Pitch). You do pay a weight penitently for a framed pack, so I think of times going back to a zero framed pack, However for me I need a frame if much over 20 pound loads. By the way if doing mail order it can be hard to get the right size, be sure to make sure the size is right, sometimes the recommendation of the maker are wrong. Adjustable frame is nice, a longer frame pack often feels better until you put in long miles then it starts to hurt the tops of the legs were you raise them up against the pack waist strap.
  16. By the way the most breathable fabric I found to date is a Bull Frogg jacket by Frogg Toggs. (mouth on fabric breath test) But it does saturate with water when running in the rain.... Event is very breathable via the breath through fabric test.. Like most everything it is nice to verify things yourself in some fashion, no trust and verify. >) Dan
  17. Thinking of trying columbia outdry jacket and pants or bibs. Mostly for cool to cold weather bushwhacking. ?? Looking for info or recomendations, thanks. I have a packa which is ok for useage on trail but not so good in climbing situations and dealing with gear on pack.
  18. I can breath through the event fabric in my bivy sack made of event. The outdry I tried was like non breathable rain gear, but there may be other outdry fabrics than what I tried. Dan
  19. I decided not to buy an Outdry for now. I have a very unscientific test method of putting my mouth on the fabric to see if I can move air through it. By this test it is non breathable.... However it could be OK anyway , as most breathable materials actually do not work anyway in rain especially combined with wet brush. For me If it is wet out and I am moving I get wet no matter what in a few hours,. wet from sweat and rain. I doubt there is any magic way to stay dry in rain if your hiking at any real pace. Even when I use a flappy loose poncho I get wet on a trail, if moving in heavy rain. However I never tried the super high end expensive gear. I do know that the waterproof breathable gear if soaked with rain, whetted out, holds a lot of water, hard to dry out, not good, sucks out body heat trying to dry it out,,,,, the non breathable stuff is likely better in really wet conditions. Dan
  20. Sorry, I don't have any tents to trade at the moment, ebay has good deals. I recently ordered a 3F tunnel tent on Aliexpress.com Dirt cheap direct order china site. Takes forever to get it shipped in (month or two) and quality I think semi good but no experience yet with this particular tent yet. I do try to mix in my local USA cottage industry buys with china goods, most everything made in china anyway, just cut out the FAT middle man with direct order. Good luck
  21. One more thing I pre tie my tarp tie outs and leave them on the tarp. Most of them should be around 4 feet long. The front one is about 10 feet long and one at the rear about 10 feet long, 2 long strings just in case I want to do a lean too set up. The front and rear tie out string is a different color for ease of set up. Take the effort to find the lightest tie out string as you will save a few ounces. Sometimes the string balls up when unpacking the tarp, but it usually works pretty good. Set up is harder than a free standing tent but goes well enough with practice and you can set up in places that simply won't work for a tent. This comes in handy almost on every hike or climb I do as we are in back country. Most of the time you can wrap the string around rocks, sometimes the tent pegs are really needed.
  22. By the way for any who may be interested the feathered friends Vireo sleeping bag is great with a puffy jacket and plenty roomy and can't get much lighter for a sleeping bag. It is good to about 30 degrees and I am a cold sleeper. I suggest getting the longest one as it is possible to pull it over the head if needed and I like it over my shoulders anyway, the weight is about a pound and it is possible to get one made with more fill for colder weather if wanted.
  23. Second the tarp idea. The last couple of years I have been using a tarp and a light bivy sack combo for good weather. If the forecast is close to 100 percent clear and if your not camping up super high during the summer, a tarp works good. You will need extra bug protection if the bugs are bad. I suggest a silnylon tarp 9X9 or 8X10 or 10X10 and SOL breathable bivy sacks. There are three models to choose from all are good. Do not get the SOL non breathable bivy sacks, the breathable ones are good to use for camping until they fall apart which can take a long time. My system is a feathered friends Vireo sleeping bag, a SOL bivy sack and tarp with my goose down jacket for near perfect weather forecasts. If any significant percentage bad weather forecast I take a synthetic jacket (around 20% and above chance of rain). I have been using 8X10, 1.5 lb tarp (including 6 stakes) along with a 8 oz SOL bivy sack with a 17oz, Vireo sleeping bag. It would be hard to get a much lighter system. I have a particular way of setting up my tarp so it is like a tent with a open front. For my set up you need a tie in point under the center of the tarp. Look at CCS tarps, Cooke Custom Sewing. Tarps they have a quad loop center tie under the tarp to attach a trekking pole. Also I use a tie in point at the front of the tarp. I use two trekking poles for set up. It is cheaper and better to use a simple rectangular or square tarp for climbing as you can find places to set up that you can't hardly use with a tent or a tarp that can be set up only one way. The bonus is a simple tarp is cheaper and often lighter than the fancy tarps. I sometimes carry a bug jacket if I think the bugs are going to be really bad. If you can get above about 5000+ feet to camp the bugs are not so bad in camp. Cheapish square tarps can be found on Ebay. However most do not have the quad loop sewn under the tarp, you can ask it to be added or sew it on yourself. CCS tarps are set up perfect and a USA made product The CCS 8x10 or 10X10 tarps are good for two, especially with a light bivy sack. One can find lighter Cuben tarps but cost much. Best for the money is a 1.1oz per square yard silnylon, one can look hard for a silpoly tarp for about same cost maybe a little lighter depending what you find. I rode out some mild weather with a tarp and bivy combo and it is safe unless your pushing your luck with altitude or weather forecast or very windy areas. Here is the set up I use most every time, a quad loop tie in under the tarp center is needed. I usually put the length at 8 feet and width at 10 feet which gives tons a of room for two guys and gear, much more than a tent and plenty of protection for good weather. One can also use a 9x9, or even 10x10 for lots of protection from rain. Do not camp in a depression. If weather gets really bad a pyramid set up is possible, or drop the open end down close to the ground. You can spend more money for a bivy sack than for the SOL breathable bivvy sack but they are hard to beat in performance only a little small. The SOL escape pro is the most expensive but gives a little more room that the SOL escape, the SOL escape lite is a little lighter but no way to cinch up the head area. The big bonus is being able to carry a light water proof bivy sack up high on the climb. This set up is not that expensive compared to others. One can sew their own tarp but the cost savings is really not there for the first go around as compared to ordered tarps. However sewing a tarp is fairly simple and fun project if into that sort of thing.
  24. Took it out once to try it out. Decided not for me. Will sell for half price plus shipping $110 bucks. Wretyduf@rocketmail.com Thanks Dan
  25. Anyone know of trekking poles designed for self arrest via pole In arm pit method? Works well if pole does not bend or break. Dan
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