Mr._Chips

I see you have not had the surgery yet. Is that what you had for dinner?

Yes, tis an old WoodyAllen comment. Trask is still scratchin' his head though.

Jus tryin to look chipper, thanks fer noticin though.

Right.

IAIN < he thinks he is

TRASK, you've been using that nickname for over 40 years, you must have been born at a very young age.

TRASK, you've been using that nickname for over 40 years, you must have been born at a very young age.

TTT what and where is it? the part about Dru telling Anna to use the pink webbing and shit and climbing on shrooms, Maybe I missed something?

Dru?...........Dru?............Guess he decided to take the shit.

Jealousy????

Oh Dru, you are so suave. What is next? "Okay friends, listen up, should I get off the computer or go take a shit, get back to me as soon as possible though"

Tyrone - that is funny - Trask the village idiot of the internet, great analogy, and yer right, he is an important element to this The main thread has fizzled somewhat, too bad chuckk and robbob were not on line when it was interesting, would have been good to have some more insight and views. Anonymity, yes, I will keep mine too. why? because it's my perogative. I don't care who has a real name vs an avatar, does not bug me at all. Dru, what do you have nothing better to do than hunt down every lead to ferret out names behind avatars? Lookin forward to the show, can we throw horsecock at the podium? You could consider it praise if there is something approving.

T -Top R -Roper A -And S -Spray K -King

SAME.

CC.COM - TRASK = GREAT DAY

10%REALITY + 90%BULLSHIT = SLIDESHOW

TRASK = TRASH

Dru, perhaps you should read the whole thing and get a true gist of what's being talked about here, that way your comments are more relevent. Secondly, did your friend Carlos (anagram) learn anything about running things out, cause a climber could stitch mosquito up pretty good. When I am belaying a friend who has intermediate skills at trad leading, I usually pipe up that another piece would be a great idea, it can be situational though.

Tyrone's post is some of the funniest shit I've read on this "CLIMBERS BORED".!! Trask, what is up with trying to take credit for it, OR at least trying to quell the flames on this one. Again, that is some funny shit.

All the very best Trask.

I am talking way down the line brother, away from the popular area of Malamute. Hell, I have seen others doing it down there, it's just the sight and sound of a hammer gets some people real jumpy real quick. Sometimes the sound of a Hilti too.

Snoboy. This has not so much to do with making a mistake. It is about the mistakes being made due to improper training and experience and NOT listening to others when they blatently point it out to you. It is about NOT assessing your own skills and knowledge and it's about embellishing them, which never helps.

I am glad to see that many of the people who have relevent and informed experience are connecting on the heart of this matter. Coddling is not the proper approach here, and getting upset is not either. Read through the posts and try your best to 'see' that people care, and it takes a stern voice to render that care sometimes. jkrueger happened to dust the fingerprints off some past experience that had your name written all over it. Like it's been highlighted, you need to listen to the people who are offering advice. Tough love hurts, consider it an 'intervention'. People give interventions to friends to HELP them. So ya, I have not climbed with you either (Hi snoboy), but I still see the value in you as a person. Print off the discussion and highlite the stuff that makes sense, whether you like it or not, (leave out the nonsense from guys like trask though) and try and distill the theme here. Read Necronomimcons posting, Glaciers, SHoes, Muffy, There is something there, you NEED to see it.

Going against party line can have it's disadvantages, but again, it's a voice of concern and awareness. Otherwise it can become like "THE BLIND LEADING THE BLIND" or would it be "THE BLIND LETTING THE BLIND LEAD".

Or you can kill someone else too. I think most of you will read this page and hopefully sit back and realize the underlying and often overlooked reality of the situation. I am not one of those people who speaks his mind at the crags (unless it's a perilously desperate situation that warrants immediate attention), I chose to pack my gear up quietly, mind my own business, (cause it is'nt), and leave the situation/scene. The forum is easier, people are not caught up in the 'real life' situation, and under normal conditions (rare), a 'conversation' can ensue, and people can take/give opinions, guidence, advice, criticism, etc.