Mr._Chips

one lost tool = ONE TOOL

Oh I see................So your fairy style moustache is totally different from the one in Jordopes avatar............I see.

Who is Adamson??

Heinie, When you are there you gotta bust over to the Kings' Cross area of Sydney and check out the pub/club called "NEXUS".

First off -- I love dogs. Second -- I love climbing. BUT having said that, I really think there are times when the two should not mix. In congruence with DFA, a lot comes down to the owner. Yappy dogs are no fun to listen to while climbing, and often the owners think it's cute and perhaps adoring. At the crags, sure, dogs can be tolerated for the most part, and to mirror DFA's point, the dog should be pretty much sleeping. I have had someone dog come over, pick up a piece of MY webbing, carry it over to the shade below a tree, and commence chewing. By the time I found out, I was pretty much convinced that I was out the cost of the pre-sewn, BUT the fucking owner and her friend thought it was truly funny. I should have asked for ten bucks, but I was too pissed off and left the area. Alpine, dogs have no business being there. I have seen ignorant fucking people bring their dogs up to very sensitive alpine environments and seen them tearing up the fragile flowers and soil while engaged in pursuit of wild birds, causing them undue stress and burning their energy stores off. Again, no leash and the couple found it endearing and exciting. This time I said something, not being nasty, just explained what was really happening there. Their reaction = clueless and careless. Dogs can have a large impact on the wilderness, hell we do enough damage, do you really need to bring your dog into the alpine??? Pick a nice trail, put the dingo on a leash and pick up his steamers and dispose of them properly.....

Damn!! I thought I had er figured out on that one, Oh well, I shall never ever ever try for a Page Top Again You have my word on that one.

Okay, this has got to be PageTop? I really want this one. If this is not PageTop, then I will never try again.

AHhhhhh that felt good [ 11-08-2002, 12:58 PM: Message edited by: Mr. Chips ]

Just illustrating the point that MIS-COMMUNICATION can lead to many problems and help perpetuate spray, like what I just did to Chuck, see how things can get de-railed quickly, along with attitudes. sorry Chuck, it was whoever next quoted me, random spot. Thanks in advance for being a good sport. [ 11-08-2002, 12:54 PM: Message edited by: Mr. Chips ]

I said "a lot of times.." You know, sometimes it would help if you read the information a little closer sometimes. Yes, I read "round 1" and found it interesting and somewhat insightful, I have been on intra continental climbing trips and have some stories and lessons of my own. You don't see my avatar on that thread do you? There are SPRAYERS = only spray There are also people who mix it up with helpful ideas, comments, suggestions, beta, opinions, questions, and spray.....in fact, I bet that pretty much sums up most users in the forum. I am not talking about the poster of the round 1 thread wanting folks to "LOOK at MEEE", it's the sprayers who seek out the popular threads Now get your head outta yer

I'm trying to get on the bandwagon here. Any hints at all, or am I on my own on this one, you know, cut down on the competition, you know, cause it's so fierce.

When is a good time to PAGE TOP??

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Yes Tim, how eloquantly stated. And on that note, I will leave this one as an unsolved mystery......Unless Stefan, you find some more insightful information to add to this queery.

I think a lot of the time it isn't just the thread material, it's the popularity of the thread itself that attracts the spray. They see that a thread is getting some attention, and in turn, everyone will read their remarks by default of checking out the popular thread.

quote: Originally posted by offwidthclimber: "arrgggh! we've been trolled!"

I think Tyrone has just 'trolled' ya, that's another aspect of spray.

Sorry, just one more question........Was there a reason you did'nt thread the rope through any of the existing sling at the station. Just a routine question. (voice for above should be Peter Falk)

This was a trap!! set by mattp. He led us into the Spray forum, maybe with the underlying point that we should talk and take this shit in here. You laughing at us from the outside mattp?

quote: Originally posted by Greg W: Tom Leykis and Howard Stern. Two of the highest rated radio shows in the U.S. You been living under a rock or something? No, In Canada. ON a rock. Plus, I get enough of that type of shit right here.

Yes Steve, an excellent point made. I would be on the case more-so if there was no clear and tangible evidence, which there seems not to be here. With all those slings on the station, only ONE was used. I agree, I try to use as many as possible along with one of my own if req'd to "fortify" (as steve said) the existing station. I can only think that it was your sling that failed, whether by rope burn, cut on rock, or knot failure. Bizarre that the sling was not recovered

quote: Originally posted by Noway: Interesting topic Mattp, I've thought of the same myself, but the entertainment value keeps me coming back. Some of these imbeciles are more interesting than Leykis or Stern. Who are those guys? Is there a hierarchy that I am not familiar with? PS. P A G E T O P [ 11-08-2002, 10:22 AM: Message edited by: Mr. Chips ]

Yes, you are probably thinking of Anderson RANCH, ya that's right, it's just flatlands around there, rolling pastures, nothing to see there Things change so much up there with the logging activity from season to season. Perhaps find out what company is doing the hacking and call them for updated maps, roads, and info. I have called Cattermole timber before and they have been very helpful, even faxing me a current layout. So, like I said, not sure who is doing the work up there, but if someone knows, we may just have to get in touch with them, save you a re-con up there in the maze.

Consider SPRAY to be like the equivelent of BUSHWACKING, Ya, it's like cyber-bushwacking, it can get on your nerves, sometimes you can deal with, sometimes you can't, it's in your face at times, but it is quite often expected. It can take you off course much of the time, but stay vigilant mattp, you'll always get through it, I think? [ 11-08-2002, 10:07 AM: Message edited by: Mr. Chips ]