johnny_destiny

Drink in moderation like Johnny Destiny does. ha You are the ones that are the losers. Fucking city dwellers. I have to live here because of my job, but I grew up in the hill of West Virgina and that my friends is Gods country.

YEs, Mr. Caveman, I have had a nip ot two this evening. I gave up on the AA idea and decided that a little nip here and a little nip there would not hurt anyone, even me. Besides I need to beable to drink sociably in my job description. And as far as Sisu goes I'll have a drink

Mr. Caveman, please don't follow in the foot steps of your two heros. After reading a week and a half worth of the spray or not to spray threads I would think that everyone would just calm down and SHUT THEIR FUKING PIE HOLE LIKE ALL GOOD LITTLE TROLLS AND TROLLETS. FUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKING COCK SUCKERS NOW YOU GOT ME FUCKING MAD. I AM ON THE VERGE OF SMASHING MY FUCKING COMPUTER FUUUCCKKK FUCKK FUCCCKKK.

tHE CHAT ROOM HAS EVIL PEOPLE ON IT THAT CONSPIRE WITH THE EVIL FORCES OF HELL. no... ETHIC cleansing. Like banning Dwayner for having different ethics. Did you know banned persons and avatars can still chat in the chat room? Huh!

You two bastards are just spreading rumors and you know it. First of all I was not getting head from that young lady. She was my sister's sister-in-law and I was showing her the fall colors and stuff. We were taking our time and she was needing some time to recover on the trail...if that is what you call it. The Apps have better trail systems than the Cascades and apparently better behaved people. I will not enter into your childish s***. In fact I'll say, God Bless both of you and I am sorry for calling you both bastards. I am sure your mothers were married.

Wow, Dru...I'll make sure I never have the companies that I represent insure any of the firms doing squid research. Would be hell to have to pay for clients with squid sperm injected in their skin.

EAT veal ya pussy mother fucker!

WEll mURRAY, WE BUILD THAT MANY SO WE CAN CONTROL AS MANY PLACES AS WE SEE FIT TO. wHA THE FUCK, WHY BE A WORLD POWER IF YOU CAN'T BE EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD AT ONCE. wASN'T IT THE eNGLISH THAT SAID, "tHE SUN NEVER SET ON THE eMPIRE"? wELL, THE WORLD NEVER GOES WITHOUT BE OBSERVED BY THE uNITED sTATES. rEMEMBER WE HAVE ELECTRONIC EYES OVER HEAD, ELECTRONIC EARS UNDER THE SEA, AND CLIMBERS HAVE PLANTED MANY LISTENING AND LOCATER DEVICES AROUND THE BOARDERS OF GREAT RANGES.

I have a good way to vomit. After drinking go buy a quart of honey. Heat it up so it flows real well but not so it burns. Then down the entire thing. In about 5 minutes you'll be puking and shitting yourself clean. Old West Virginia alcoholic treatment using honey. Rumor has it if you keep forcing the honey over a period of a week the person in question will not what to drink alcohol ever again(as well as honey)

I've been near there on business. I do work for several insurance companies...risk statistics and such. One thing I can say about the Germans, they set up a good work place and make the employees know what they want otherwise its tough times for that person. We can give the Germans the lowest rates for industrial insurance in all of western Europe.

Catbirdseat, I thought that was a place where lezzies hung out. Like carpet licker, carpet muncher, etc. Carpet land would be a perfect place for lezzies to group up and find more carpet.

This guy has it in for Erik. Where were you stationed? What did Erik do to get you all hackled and frothing.

heeere is more on Old Slick Willy. CLINTON BODY COUNT By: Ether Zone Staff Here is the latest body count that we have. All of these people have been connected with the Clintons in some form or another. We have not included any deaths that could not be verified or connected to the Clinton scandals. All deaths are listed chronologically by date. This list is current and accurate to the best of our knowledge as of January 13, 1999 August 1, 2000. Susan Coleman: Rumors were circulating in Arkansas of an affair with Bill Clinton. She was found dead with a gunshot wound to the head at 7 1/2 months pregnant. Death was an apparent suicide. Larry Guerrin: Was killed in February 1987 while investigating the INSLAW case. Kevin Ives & Don Henry: Initial cause of death was reported to be the result of falling asleep on a railroad track in Arkansas on August 23, 1987. This ruling was reported by the State medical examiner Fahmy Malak. Later it was determined that Kevin died from a crushed skull prior to being placed on the tracks. Don had been stabbed in the back. Rumors indicate that they might have stumbled upon a Mena drug operation. Keith Coney: Keith had information on the Ives/Henry deaths. Died in a motorcycle accident in July 1988 with unconfirmed reports of a high speed car chase. Keith McKaskle: McKaskle has information on the Ives/Henry deaths. He was stabbed to death in November 1988. Gregory Collins: Greg had information on the Ives/Henry deaths. He died from a gunshot wound to the face in January 1989. Jeff Rhodes: He had information on the deaths of Ives, Henry & McKaskle. His burned body was found in a trash dump in April 1989. He died of a gunshot wound to the head and there was some body mutilation, leading to the probably speculation that he was tortured prior to being killed. James Milam: Milam had information on the Ives & Henry deaths. He was decapitated. The state Medical examiner, Fahmy Malak, initially ruled death due to natural causes. Richard Winters: Winters was a suspect in the deaths of Ives & Henry. He was killed in a "robbery" in July 1989 which was subsequently proven to be a setup. Jordan Kettleson: Kettleson had information on the Ives & Henry deaths. He was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup in June 1990. Alan Standorf: An employee of the National Security Agency in electronic intelligence. Standorf was a source of information for Danny Casalaro who was investigating INSLAW, BCCI, etc. Standorf's body was found in the backseat of a car at Washington National Airport on Jan 31, 1991. Dennis Eisman: An attorney with information on INSLAW. Eisman was found shot to death on April 5, 1991. Danny Casalaro: Danny was a free-lance reporter and writer who was investigating the "October Surprise", INSLAW and BCCI. Danny was found dead in a bathtub in a Sheraton Hotel room in Martinsburg, West Virginia. Danny was staying at the hotel while keeping appointments in the DC area pertinent to his investigation. He was found with his wrists slashed. At least one, and possibly both of his wrists were cut 10 times. All of his research materials were missing and have never been recovered. Victor Raiser: The National Finance Co-Chair for "Clinton for President." He died in a airplane crash on July 30, 1992. R. Montgomery Raiser: Also involved in the Clinton presidential campaign. He died in the same plane crash as Victor. Paul Tully: Tulley was on the Democratic National Committee. He was found dead of unknown causes in his hotel room on September 24, 1992. No autopsy was ever allowed. Ian Spiro: Spiro had supporting documentation for grand jury proceedings on the INSLAW case. His wife and 3 children were found murdered on November 1, 1992 in their home. They all died of gunshot wounds to the head. Ian's body was found several days later in a parked car in the Borego Desert. Cause of death? The ingestion of cyanide. FBI report indicated that Ian had murdered his family and then committed suicide. Paula Gober: A Clinton speech writer. She died in a car accident on December 9, 1992 with no known witnesses. Jim Wilhite: Wilhite was an associate of Mack McClarty's former firm. Wilhite died in a skiing accident on December 21, 1992. He also had extensive ties to Clinton with whom he visited by telephone just hours before his death. Steve Willis, Robert Williams, Todd McKeahan & Conway LeBleu: Died Feburary 28, 1993 by gunfire at Waco. All four were examined by a pathologist and died from identical wounds to the left temple. All four had been body guards for Bill Clinton, three while campaigning for President and when he was Governor of Arkansas.They also were the ONLY 4 BATF agents killed at Waco. Sgt. Brian Haney, Sgt. Tim Sabel, Maj. William Barkley, Capt. Scott Reynolds: Died: May 19, 1993 - All four men died when their helicopter crashed in the woods near Quantico, Va. - Reporters were barred from the site, and the head of the fire department responding to the crash described it by saying, "Security was tight," with "lots of Marines with guns." A videotape made by a firefighter was seized by the Marines. All four men had escorted Clinton on his flight to the carrier Roosevelt shortly before their deaths. John Crawford: An attorney with information on INSLAW. He died from a heart attack in Tacoma in April of 1993. John Wilson: Found dead from an apparent hanging suicide on May 18, 1993. He was a former Washington DC council member and claimed to have info on Whitewater. Paul Wilcher: A lawyer who was investigating drug running out of Mena, Arkansas and who also sought to expose the "October Surprise", BCCI and INSLAW. He was found in his Washington DC apartment dead of unknown causes on June 22, 1993. Vincent Foster: A White House deputy counsel and long-time personal friend of Bill and Hillary's. Found on July 20, 1993, dead of a gunshot wound to the mouth -- a death ruled suicide. Many different theories on this case! Readers are encouraged to read our report in Strange Deaths. Jon Parnell Walker: An investigator for the RTC who was looking into the linkage between the Whitewater and Madison S&L bankruptcy. Walker "fell" from the top of the Lincoln Towers Building. Stanley Heard & Steven Dickson: They were members of the Clinton health care advisory committee. They died in a plane crash on September 10, 1993. Jerry Luther Parks: Parks was the Chief of Security for Clinton's national campaign headquarters in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car on September 26, 1993 near the intersection of Chenal Parkway and Highway 10 west of Little Rock. Parks was shot through the rear window of his car. The assailant then pulled around to the driver's side of Park's car and shot him three more times with a 9mm pistol. His family reported that shortly before his death, they were being followed by unknown persons, and their home had been broken into (despite a top quality alarm system). Parks had been compiling a dossier on Clinton's illicit activities. The dossier was stolen. Ed Willey: A Clinton fundraiser. He died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound on November 30, 1993. His death came the same day his wife, Kathleen, was sexually assaulted in the White House by Bill Clinton. Gandy Baugh: Baugh was Lasater's attorney and committed suicide on January 8, 1994. Baugh's partner committed suicide exactly one month later on February 8, 1994. Herschell Friday: A member of the presidential campaign finance committee. He died in an airplane explosion on March 1, 1994. Ronald Rogers: Rogers died on March 3, 1994 just prior to releasing sensitive information to a London newspaper. Cause of death? Undetermined. Kathy Furguson: A 38 year old hospital worker whose ex-husband is a co- defendant in the Paula Jones sexual harassment law suit. She had information supporting Paula Jone's allegations. She died of an apparent suicide on May 11, 1994 from a gunshot wound to the head. Bill Shelton: Shelton was an Arkansas police officer and was found dead as an apparent suicide on kathy Ferguson's grave (Kathy was his girl friend), on June 12, 1994. This "suicide" was the result of a gunshot wound to the back of the head. Stanley Huggins: Huggins, 46, was a principal in a Memphis law firm which headed a 1987 investigation into the loan practices of Madison Guaranty S&L. Stanley died in Delaware in July 1994 -- reported cause of death was viral pneumonia. Paul Olson: A Federal witness in investigations to drug money corruption in Chicago politics, Paul had just finished 2 days of FBI interviews when his plane ride home crashed, killing Paul and 130 others on Sept 8 1994. The Sept. 15, 1994 Tempe Tribune newspaper reported that the FBI suspected that a bomb had brought down the airplane. Calvin Walraven: 24 year on Walraven was a key witness against Jocelyn Elder's son's drug case. Walraven was found dead in his apartment with a gunshot wound to the head. Tim Hover, a Little Rock police spokesman says no foul play is suspected. Alan G. Whicher: Oversaw Clinton's Secret Service detail. In October 1994 Whicher was transferred to the Secret Service field office in the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City. Whatever warning was given to the BATF agents in that building did not reach Alan Whicher, who died in the bomb blast of April 19th 1995. Duane Garrett: Died July 26, 1995-A lawyer and a talk show host for KGO-AM in San Fransisco, Duane was the campaign finance chairman for Diane Fienstien's run for the senate, and was a friend and fundraiser for Al Gore. Garrett was under investigation for defrauding investors in Garrett's failed sports memorabilia venture. There was talk of a deal to evade prosecution. On July 26th, Garrett canceled an afternoon meeting with his lawyer because he had to meet some people at the San Fransisco airport. Three hours later he was found floating in the bay under the Golden Gate Bridge. Ron Brown:. The Commerce Secretary died on April 3, 1996, in an Air Force jet carrying Brown and 34 others, including 14 business executives on a trade mission to Croatia, crashed into a mountainside. The Air Force, in a 22-volume report issued in June of 1996, confirmed its initial judgment that the crash resulted from pilot errors and faulty navigation equipment At the time of Brown's death, Independent Counsel Daniel Pearson was seeking to determine whether Brown had engaged in several sham financial transactions with longtime business partner Nolanda Hill shortly before he became secretary of commerce. Charles Meissner: died: UNK - Following Ron Brown's death, John Huang was placed on a Commerce Department contract that allowed him to retain his security clearance by Charles Meissner. Shortly thereafter, Meissner died in the crash of a small plane. He was an Assistant Secretary of Commerce for International Economic Policy. William Colby: Retired CIA director was found dead on May 6,1996 after his wife reported him missing on April 27,1996. Apparently, Colby decided to go on a impromptu canoeing excursion and never returned. Colby who had just started writing for Strategic Investment newsletter, worried many in the intelligent community. Colby's past history of divulging CIA secrets in the past were well known. Strategic Investor had covered the Vince Foster suicide and had hired handwriting experts to review Foster's suicide note. Admiral Jeremy Boorda: Died on May 16,1996 after he went home for lunch and decided to shoot himself in the chest (by one report, twice) rather than be interviewed by Newsweek magazine that afternoon. Explanations for Boorda's suicide focused on a claim that he was embarrassed over two "Valor" pins he was not authorized to wear. Lance Herndon: Herndon a 41 year old computer specialist and a prominent entrepreneur who received a presidential appointment in 1995 died August 10, 1996 under suspicious circumstances. He appeared to have died from a blow to the head. Police said no weapons were found at his mansion, adding that Mr. Herndon had not been shot or stabbed and there was no evidence of forced entry or theft. Neil Moody: Died -August 25, 1996 Following Vincent Foster's murder, Lisa Foster married James Moody, a judge in Arkansas, on Jan 1, 1996. Near the time Susan McDougal first went to jail for contempt, Judge Moor's son, Neil died in a car crash. There were other reports that Neil Moody had discovered something very unsettling among his stepmother's private papers and was threatening to go public with it just prior to the beginning of the Democratic National Convention. He was alleged to have been talking to Bob Woodward of the Washington Post about a blockbuster story. Witnesses said they saw Neil Moody sitting in his car arguing with another person just prior to His car suddenly speeding off out of control and hitting a brick wall. Barbara Wise: Wise a 14-year Commerce Department employee found dead and partially naked in her office following a long weekend. She worked in the same section as John Huang. Officially, she is said to have died of natural causes. Doug Adams: Died January 7, 1997- A lawyer in Arkansas who got involved trying to help the people who were being swindled out of their life savings. Adams was found in his vehicle with a gunshot wound to his head in a Springfield Mo. hospital parking lot. Mary C. Mahoney: 25, murdered at the Georgetown Starbuck's coffee bar over the 4th of July '97 weekend. She was a former White House intern who worked with John Huang. Apparently she knew Monica Lewinsky and her sexual encounters with Bill Clinton. Although not verified, it has been said that Lewinsky told Linda Tripp that she did not want to end up like Mahoney. Ronald Miller: Suddenly took ill on October 3rd,1997 and steadily worsened until his death 9 days later. (This pattern fits Ricin poisoning.) Owing to the strangeness of the illness, doctors at the Integris Baptist Medical Center referred the matter to the Oklahoma State Medical Examiner's Office. The Oklahoma State Medical Examiner's Office promptly ran tests on samples of Ron Miller's blood, but has refused to release the results or even to confirm that the tests were ever completed. Had been investigated by authorities over the sale of his company, Gage Corp. to Dynamic Energy Resources, Inc. was the man who tape recorded Gene and Nora Lum and turned those tapes (and other records) over to congressional oversight investigators. The Lums were sentenced to prison for campaign finance violations, using "straw donors" to conceal the size of their contributions to various candidates. Indeed, Dynamic Energy Resources, Inc. had hired Ron Brown's son Michael solely for the purpose of funneling $60,000 through him to the Commerce Secretary, according to Nolanda Hill's testimony. Sandy Hume: On Sunday, February 22nd, 1998, Sandy Hume, the 28 year old son of journalist Britt Hume, was reportedly found dead in his Arlington, Virginia home. Aside from the statement that this was an "apparent" suicide, there remains in place a total media blackout on this story, possibly out of concern that the actual facts will not withstand public scrutiny. Worked for Hill magazine, about Congress for Congress. Jim McDougal: Bill and Hillary Clinton friend, banker, and political ally, sent to prison for eighteen felony convictions. A key whitewater witness, dies of a heart attack on March, 8 1998. As of this writing allegations that he was given an injection of the diuretic lasix has not been denied or confirmed. Died on March 8, 1998 Johnny Lawhon: 29, died March 29, 1998- The Arkansas transmission specialist who discovered a pile of Whitewater documents in the trunk of an abandoned car on his property and turned them over to Starr, was killed in a car wreck two weeks after the McDougal death.. Details of the "accident" have been sketchy -- even from the local Little Rock newspaper. Charles Wilbourne Miller: 63, was found dead of a gunshot wound to the head on November 17, 1998 in a shallow pit about 300 yards from his ranch house near Little Rock. Police found a .410 gauge shotgun near Miller's body and a Ruger .357-caliber revolver submerged in water. Investigators concluded the Ruger was the weapon used by Miller to kill himself. Yet, two rounds in the handgun's cylinder had been spent. He had long served as executive vice president and member of the board of directors for a company called Alltel and was deeply involved in his own software engineering company until the day he died. Alltel is the successor to Jackson Stephens' Systematics, the company that provided the software for the White House's "Big Brother" data base system and that was behind the administration's plan to develop the secret computer "Clipper" chip to bug every phone, fax and email transmission in America. Carlos Ghigliotti: 42, was found dead in his home just outside of Washington D.C. on April 28, 2000. There was no sign of a break-in or struggle at the firm of Infrared Technology where the badly decomposed body of Ghigliotti was found. Ghigliotti had not been seen for several weeks. Ghigliotti, a thermal imaging analyst hired by the House Government Reform Committee to review tape of the siege, said he determined the FBI fired shots on April 19, 1993. The FBI has explained the light bursts on infrared footage as reflections of sun rays on shards of glass or other debris that littered the scene. "I conclude this based on the groundview videotapes taken from several different angles simultaneously and based on the overhead thermal tape," Ghigliotti told The Washington Post last October. "The gunfire from the ground is there, without a doubt." Ghigliotti said the tapes also confirm the Davidians fired repeatedly at FBI agents during the assault, which ended when flames raced through the compound. About 80 Branch Davidians perished that day, some from the fire, others from gunshot wounds. Mark Corallo, a spokesman for the congressional committee chaired by Rep. Dan Burton, R-Ind., said that police found the business card of a committee investigator in Ghigliotti's office. Corallo said Ghigliotti's work for the committee ended some time ago. Tony Moser: 41, was killed as he crossed a street in Pine Bluff, Ark on on June 10, 2000. Killed 10 days after being named a columnist for the Democrat-Gazette newspaper and two days after penning a stinging indictment of political corruption in Little Rock. Police have concluded that no charges will be filed against the unnamed driver of a 1995 Chevrolet pickup, which hit Moser as he was walking alone in the middle of unlit Rhinehart Road about 10:10 p.m Police say they have ruled out foul play and will file no charges against the driver because he was not intoxicated and there was no sign of excessive speed. "Published originally at EtherZone.com : republication allowed with this notice and hyperlink intact."

1. You have to believe the AIDS virus is spread by the lack of Federal funding. 2. You have to believe that the same teacher who can't teach 4th graders how to read is somehow qualified to teach the same kids about sex. 3. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans are more of a threat than U.S. nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Chinese communists. 4. You have to believe that there was no art before Federal funding. 5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical, documented changes in the earth's climate, and more affected by yuppies driving SUV's. 6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial but being homosexual is natural. 7. You have to be against capital punishment but support abortion on demand. 8. You have to believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity. 9. You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature, but looney activists who've never been outside Seattle do. 10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it. 11. You have to believe that the military, not corrupt politicians, start wars. 12. You have to believe the NRA is bad because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good, because it supports certain parts of the Constitution. 13. You have to believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high. 14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, General Robert E. Lee, or Thomas Edison. 15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides aren't. 16. You have to believe Hillary Clinton is really a lady. 17. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried is because the right people haven't been in charge. 18. You have to believe conservatives telling the truth belong in jail, but a liar and a sex offender belongs in the White House. 19. You have to believe that homosexual parades displaying drag, transvestites and bestiality should be Constitutionally protected and manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal. 20. You have to believe that illegal Democratic party funding by the Chinese is somehow in the best interest of the United States. 21. You have to believe that anyone who beats you in an intellectual arguments is a bigot. And finally... 22. You have to believe Richard Nixon obstructed justice by having an 18 1/2 minute gap in one tape of his recorded conversations and that it was an innocent mistake that one year's worth of Al Gore's e-mails got erased. And, wouldn't you know that these e-mails of Al's just happen to be the ones subpoenaed by a White House committee and a federal grand jury in their continuing investigation of campaign finance abuses and other matters. Bonus belief of a liberal: 23. You have to believe that it's better for a woman to be raped and murdered than for a rapist to be shot. Believe all of the above, and THEN you will be a really good liberal

REI is slowly becoming the new Eddie Bauer. I was up stairs (Seattle store) the other day and saw that the "attic sale" area is gone. Replaced by an expanded shoe area. It resembles Banana Republic. I am slowly weaning myself from REI and purchasing at other shops. Even though this means going to several places to buy gear. I feel better giving my money to the little guy and not the towering giant that crushes the small store owner, harasses me to death about joining a coop I already belong to, and trying to sell me charge cards that I don't want. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

if youre a sinner, getting up any peak is going to be hard... even worse if you're a Democrat the LOrd is good to me

Hippies are fucked. I have two uncles and an aunt all good old WV hill people that went to college on scholorships; got into the hippy movement in the mid 60's. They have not done a god damn thing with their lives since. Got good college degrees, put a ton of hope in the family that we were on our way out of the coal mines. We figured that these three would serve as examples as to what a college degree could do. Instead one joined the fucking peace corps, another started working with a social services agency, and the aunt, well hell bells, she joined some fucking commune and as far as we know she is a queer. One one has heard from her since 1973 and no is is asking either. Christ hippies are commuies in shitty clothes. It took another generation before the family even mentioned going to college. that was me and 4 other cousins...females and males. We did good; we have been helping the families and trying to educate them to go to trade schools or college. The 5 of us are conservative, Repubican hippy haters. JD

Chirp, so clean you ass with plastic wrap, blow your nose like the French when in the office, and then move out of your house or apartment or condo if its of wood construction. Support the concrete industry or the steel industry...they just dig up the ground and blast it. Rocks dont' grown back, but you are too short sighted to see that, or else to fucking stupid of a cunt to realize it.

I was near Eldorado this week and ran into some scientist types. I got curious and asked a few questions. They were not very forthcoming with information but from what I observed and got anwers to they are looking into the following: 1. ice worm habitate and the impact humans have on them 2. over population of marmots and the negative impact they have on plant life in the area. Interesting...don't know where this is headed, but...? JD

Well, I'll tell ya how us red neck hill folk would handle this. No guns allowed in Canada but rocks in socks is a good weapon and if yor serious a good old hand saw like the old time carpenter used. It'll remove a hand, elbow and if yer not careful where yer swinging that thing a head could roll on by. But I imagine all you pretty boys will want to go the PC way and ask for forgiveness in being an American. I don't know how the fellas feel that this happened to but I would be very pissed and lookin fer revenge like a big dog. Just my West Virgina two cents. JD

Don't marry a woman with big hands. It makes your pecker look smaller."

Mr. Jefffski you sound like a would be hero. I believe you were struck down because the LORD was angry with you. I hope you have been going to church more frequently since then. I find prayer and Camels get me up almost any peak no matter what the altitude.

she has a church meeting that Sunday and will not be making it

Trask may be a sinner, and judging by his whoring and drinking he is below average in that category, but at least he has a sense of humour, and know's whats right in politics. Whereas I am going to pray that the Lord brings you something better to do than worry about "who's who". Here are some you probably haven't considered yet: Erik is DFA. Iain is Allison. And Gappertimmy is Jon. Amen. See you in church tomorrow. If the preacher shuts up early, I might even get to go climbing!

If God's happy with you then nuts or cams will both work And if he isn't well, neither one's going to keep you from your "date" down there But when I go into the backcountry these days I find my protection needs are mostly from the anim,als - two and four legged. a .357 is plenty enough protection for them, and light enough to lug around. but if they made a Titanium one I'd thank God and buy it.