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    Iraq

    I am against occupying another country that did not attack us. Did Iraq attack us? NOPE they sure did not. So why are we there? OIL/MONEY

     

    It is not a war. It is an occupation. It is a debacle that no good can come from it. If we are at war, who is the enemy? Crazy Islamic fuckers who like to blow shit up? That has been going on since the beginning of time. Why now did we decide to do something about it? OIL.

     

    The problem with people is that they try to over-simplify. We fought the Iraqi army for weeks only. After that, we are essentially protecting Iraq from outsiders. The vast, vast majority of people we have fought were from Syria, Iran, Pakistan etc. It is clearly not about oil Kev; they just started producing 2.5 mill bbls / day. Even if we got every cent of the profits which we wont, it wont even put a dent in the cost of this war. Now, the thing oil will do, is help the Iraqis to pay some of the costs of reconstruction and to help stabilize the country now that the Iraqi military and police force are feeling more comfortable on ops.

     

    They are not ready yet though. Any attempt to claim otherwise is just bravado for the sake of their muslim bretheren. Some of their ops have gone well, but under heavy U.S. observation.

     

    Iraq

     

    I cannot change policy

     

     

    Yes you can. Its called VOTING!

    I already addressed this Kev. Now, do you have any more enlightened information to enthrall me with about War?

     

    I have heard all of your Bush tirades before. How about trying something different.

     

    Ask your self this:

     

    Are you agianst this war solely because you are either 1) against all wars in general; or 2) are you against this war because of political reasons...

     

    think carefully whether or not you can answer yes to either of those two answers.

     

     

  1. Mabe you should pull the log out of your eye before you start pointing out the slinter in ours...

     

    1873 Sir John A. Macdonald

     

    1925 William Lyon Mackenzie King

     

    1966 Gerda Munsinger

     

    1978 Francis Fox

     

    1985 John Fraser

     

    1985 Robert Coates

     

    1985 Marcel Masse

     

    1987 André Bissonnette

     

    1988 Michel Coté

     

    1989 Bernard Valcourt

     

    1990 Jean Charest

     

    1991 Alan Redway

     

    1986 Michel Gravel

     

    1997 Jean Cretien/ RCMP's

     

    1995 Brian Mulroney

     

    2000 Jane Stewart

     

    2003 Jean Chretien

     

    Long list for a country smaller than some of our cities...

     

     

    Iraq

    GWB. When McCain is elected, I will do my job the same as I have under GWB. The only thing I can do is train myself all day everyday to be the best I can to do what my country wills me to do.

     

    I cannot change policy; I wouldn't even if I were given the chance. I am a soldier and it is not my responsibility.

     

    "their's is not to question why; their's is but to do and die."

    Iraq

    I don't have the right Kev. That is the point.

     

    Now maybe you understand why soldiers hate flag burners so much. They give up their freedom of speech and their free thought so that others can abuse theirs.

     

    Tell you the truth Kev, in another year, I will tell you what I think about our president.

     

     

    Iraq

    You don't know shit douche. I don't support anyone but the United States of America.

     

    It is not my place to say what I think of the President. The only place I get to do that is in the voters' box.

     

    I do, on the other hand, think that what we are doing is worthwhile.

    Iraq

    Scott, if you aren't just trolling, maybe you need to take a step away from shit for a bit and re-evaluate. I imagine there are probably one or two people around who have issues with soliders, per se, but I couldn't name them. I think we all have nothing but the highest regard for the men and women who serve. Plenty of lefties around these parts who understand the the need for national defense. This doesn't mean we can't fulfill our responsibilities as citizens and express our opinions about the war (pro or con) or those who sent our young men and women into harm's way. No one wishes harm on you or your comrades, regardless of whether they want you home or not. We understand that you might want to complete your mission (whatever that may be these days), but that isn't for your or your colleagues to decide, just as it wasn't your choice to be sent. God speed and come home safe.

     

    The converse is also true; it is not for armchair quarterbacks to decry the actions of service men. Any of you who think you know the dynamics over there are sorely mistaken. No matter how much you read or how much you research, there is only one way to find out what is going on there.

     

    This is not Vietnam nor is it WWII; this is a very complicated war with varying levels of combatants and sentiments.

     

    There IS real progress and the fact that the Iraquis think they are ready to take the reigns is a good sign.

     

    True, we could have stayed out of Iraq and let them live under dictatorial rule and be victims of genocide, but I truly think that Iraq will be better for it and perhaps the entire region. History can be the only measure of this though.

     

    I don't care why we went or who benefeited. These are questions above my pay grade, but I do believe we are doing good things that will leave Iraq better than we found it. It was a great cost to them as well as us, but long term I sincerely believe that they will be better off.

     

     

    Iraq

    Good luck Scott. I speak for all wishing you well over there. The headline today was that the Iraqis want us out in 2008. Hopefully no one will be needed over there afterwards and peace can return to those folks.

     

    Best to you.

     

    :wave:

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    Bizarre, I really saw that headline earlier, and just went to fetch it to link the story here.....I couldn't find it anywhere via google. Perhaps "We have never been at war with Oceania"?Opps, "we have always been at war with Oceania".

     

    We will be there for a long time. Some of us.

    Iraq

    "no one called any of our soldiers in iraq anything, other than what they are, brave men and women stuck in an unfortuinate situation."

     

    Except the one who sugested our low casualty numbers were based upon the fact that we spent our deployments in FOB's :rolleyes:

    Iraq

    I dont have to make threats. I am not making one now. I do know that your bravado and your sharp tongue is backed up by nothing more than what you can produce on your keyboard.

     

    I have chosen to back up my convictions with everything I have. What have you done with yours sir?

     

    You instead, defame those who risk life and limb by calling them cowards. You can come check out my leg and then call me a coward; right before I deploy.

     

     

    Iraq

    Does the lowest casualty rate also hold true for Iraqi's? That could possibly be considered progress...all the other stat tells me is the yanks are staying in their bases.

     

    watch it pal.

     

    :lmao:

     

    How can he argue with that? How threatening. I'd sure be intimidated.

     

    I am not trying to intimidate. I just think you should have some fucking respect.

     

    Yeah, OK asshole, because your original post had SO much respect, right? :rolleyes:

     

     

    how many of you have died while spraying socialist garbage on the internet?

     

    ...besides having a coronary eating pork rinds sitting at your cushy desk jobs all day.

    Iraq

    That is right... cc.commers only have respect for socialist Western Europeans and defame their heritage, country and their way of life at any opportunity.

     

    I remember. I would think his tounge would be tied up if he happened to come accross me and my co-workers.

     

    Doubt you would be running your suck about us never leaving the FOB ace...

    Iraq

    Does the lowest casualty rate also hold true for Iraqi's? That could possibly be considered progress...all the other stat tells me is the yanks are staying in their bases.

     

    watch it pal.

     

    :lmao:

     

    How can he argue with that? How threatening. I'd sure be intimidated.

     

    I am not trying to intimidate. I just think you should have some fucking respect.

    Iraq

    The only thing that will let this war turn into "another Vietmam,"

     

     

    Too late.....and we are not at war....we are occupying another country. Please get it right.

     

    right... just as we did in Germany after outsing another genocidal dictator who invaded his neighbor. Just as we did in Japan. We are still there now.

     

    I have it right you sad bunch of armchair quarterbacks. Watch the Iraquis fight the terrorists themselves; with pride. Maybe then you will understand that some real good came out of this.

     

    These people are willing to die to help us fight them and can't wait to get in on the action. I am sorry if that doesn't exactly meld with your preconcieved notions of what is going on over there.

     

     

     

     

    Iraq

    Does the lowest casualty rate also hold true for Iraqi's? That could possibly be considered progress...all the other stat tells me is the yanks are staying in their bases.

     

    watch it pal.

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