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What does flick stand for? Is it so small that all you can do is Flick off instead of beat off? Quit posting until you grow some pubes and your balls drop. Stick with action figures and looking at your daddy's porn collection for now.

What's the time again? Also, isn't Wednesday Burger and Brew at 6th Street? $5.00 for a burger and micro is the best deal going in town. What comes next is up to us.

Hope he doesn't come out from under the gas less a spleen or some other body part being sold on the black market!

It was a post right after the accidents on Hood and Rainier, and I started the post with, "It bodes the question......" Remember that blunder of the English language? And then I said I was trying to send a letter to Climbing about it. Anyway, that was the project and Dru stated that whatever royalties came from it, if it ever got published, that I had to share with all of you who gave input. Anyway, I didn't take anything directly, but maybe indirectly it made me think of things from different perspectives. So beers to you all. Anyone that did chime in and lives in Eugene can hit me up at the next Pub Club. For the rest of y'all it may have to be shared Cytomax on a peak up North and beers after! Thanks everyone.

Don't think it is out on the shelves yet. Only subscribers have it. It hasn't made it to Eugene yet.

Not the Epics one. Issue 216 October.

Thanks DFA. I guess I owe Dru a beer or two for his comments a few months back. Anyway, I do not think I was referring to gumbies who can't climb 5.10 cracks (I don't consider that being a gumby). Hell Cavey, you get out into the thick of it much more than many of us! It doesn't matter how hard you climb, just that you are out there climbing and LEARNING new stuff. My main point in the article, and I am no writer by any means, was that there are more people out there doing instead of learning how to do. Whether it is learning from a book, a more experienced mentor, or from experience, you are taking the time to learn. Instead, my point, was that I was seeing a lot of greenhorns out there with no direction, no desire to learn, but were out there just to look cool or get a photo from the summit. Like it or not, our society is becoming more reliant on instant gratification, and my point, was that there are those out there who have moved this feeling into the realm of climbing. I am sure there will be others out there who disagree, or think I am generalizing, but there is only so much I can do as one who has never written an article and having to get my point across in less than 800 words. I haven't seen the final product as it was a spec. and the editors at Climbing had last say. Read the article and tell me what you think.

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North Face? Don't know what the descent would be like on South Side this time of year, but supposedly good alpine ice up to 70 degrees on North Face.

Fine for jacking off Just kidding Cavey. Will a 9mm prusik actually bight on a 6mm cord, or is it me not understanding your sarcasm this morning? Never tried it, and would think it would never work. The smallest I've climbed on was 8mm. Gave me enough mental security and very light.

To get you started, try and find the "Depp South Climber's Companion" It was the bible on climbing in the SOuth but I heard it is out of printy. Try and see if the updated "Dixie Cragger's Atlas" is out, by the same author, Chris Watford. Pretty comprehensive.

Lawgoddess, if you do end up heading south, I will offer beta for fresh Hot boiled Peanuts and a jar of Duke's mayonnaise! If you don't know what this means, it will be self-explanatory after spending a day down there. If you want recs. on spots and places to go within close prox. of each other lemme know.

Yeah, that's Darkie at Foster Falls in the 2nd Bunker (there is more than one). Plenty of steep sandstone caves like this and they don't all go at .13. There are some good ones at .11a. Think completely overhanging with huge jugs. Plus, you can climb up under the 70 ft waterfall on overhanging sandstone only to drop into 30 ft. of water when you get pumped. (Prob. won't be doing that in January) God, sometimes I miss living minutes away from that place! oh yeah, and the S-stone is not like desert s-stone. It isa bullet hard with fused bands of iron (lisegang bands) for sharp crimpers to boot!

Try somewhere different. If you don't go to El Potrero, which I can't understand why not, then try climbing steep sandstone in the South! You have Amazing places in Alabama, Tennessee, and North Carolina. Think Linneville Gorge, Foster Falls, T-Wall, Suck Creek Canyon, Obed River Gorge, Tallulah Gorge, and Sunset Rock all within 2-3 hours of each other. You could fly into Nashville, Hotlanta, or Birmingham. Eye candy:http://www.seclimbers.org/images/foster-falls--lance_darkie_13a-98.jpg and good beta: http://www.seclimbers.org/board.shtml

Won't be able to make it. Have to go to a conference in Sandy for the rest of the week. Will see you aqgain in two weeks though!

Attempted Entiat Icefall, but ended up playing on ice and pouting in the wind and the rain (Reminds me of a Jerry Garcia Band tune)

SOunds like fun, but already got plans. Careful of rockfall. Have a blast!

Thanks Jason.

I disagree. Unless the climbs are easily accessible (ie. Banks Lake, Icicle Creek). There are plenty of remote ice areas around. Many have been discussed openly on this list and I still rarely see anyone out at many of the places I've been over the last two winters that took some committment to get to. Anyone know when it will be out other than Dwayner?

Anyone know if that ice climbing guidebook for WA will be out before this winter season?

Looks like we settled on Entiat, and will be picking the hardest line we can do thru the Icefall to make things interesting. Looks like there may be some steeper stuff on the left side. Will post pics on Tuesday or Wednesday. Have a good weekend!Drink a beer or six for me Erik!

The Grand is crazy like that. ALways a lightning strike or two every year up there. Two years ago, two climbing rangers "on patrol" up same route were hit. Never heard of anyone actually dying from a lightning strike up there, but I guess most climbers keep their wits and they are not direct hits. Crazy Mike! Hope you had a beer and buff burger at Dornan's after that experience. You deserved one!

So, have any of you done it late season? Is the ice typically good this time of year? Erik feels it ain't worth it. Really just looking for some late season ice and steepness, but if it just choss, then rather do some long alpine rock routes. All comments appreciated. Cavey - were going to approach from Leroy, thanks.

o.k. so plans have changed and NE Face of Redoubt is out due to conflicting weather reports near Chilliwack. So, the new goals is Entiat Icefall/North Face on Maude. Ice conditions up there? Saw post from the guy who skied it (sick) in July. Anyone been there since? Rockfall? Heard that there may be some AI 3 on the left side of the face. Worth doing? Any recent beta appreciated. Have an awesome long weekend!!!!!!

I bought some Spring of last year. The guy wasn't there but his old mother was, and his freezer was full of it in the garage. She said that someone came in and stole all of it the year before.