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Szyjakowski said
:mitch do not ever call me again....sicko
You are just worried that I might be cheating on you.
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scot'teryx said:
...Jim turned around, let go of the rope, and pushed me off the trail. I fell and rolled countless times down the chossfield until I rested upon a plateau of choss...
I'm shocked!
I've never known Jim to show such good judgement.
Are you sure it was him?
A shame you did not sustain significant injury.
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Shouldn't you be heading for Colorado. Everyone there is really from Texas anyway. You should feel right at home. You can climb the 14ers there to set yourself up for a proper Texas/Colo/Rainier epic. Maybe even die.
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You know you've had a good day at Vantage...
...when you went climbing somewhere good instead.
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When compared skill involved in making a good placement and the quality of the rock, the brand of a cam don't mean shit.
Get over it and go climbing.
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Coopah said:
...Since I am over 200 lbs, cam holding power means everything to me! ...
...Right up there with breakfast.
And second breakfast.
And what about elevensies?
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Norman_Clyde said:
...buried 4 feet deep for 20 minutes. Then it says that his buddies were able to perform a beacon-assisted rescue, and that he was dug out unharmed after a 20 minute burial. This outcome is so unusual ...
The only reason he was "unharmed" is because snowboarders, having no braincells, suffer no adverse effects from hypoxia.
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Cough up the 75 bones, She-a cow-ski. You cheap bastard. Those Poons are in cherry condition. They climbed Polar and you did not. And Hey, what's wrong with those foot fangs you stole anyway?
(And another thing, quit talking about your mother like that. How would she feel if she knew what you were saying?)
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Mike said:
...We headed down to Golden on Sunday to take a swing a guiness gully. We also scouted Pretty Nuts and Riverview; both were thin and the construction is pretty major. It was a lot warmer - actually got above 0F although it was windy. When we got to Guiness Gully, there was two feet of new powder, but the gully was dry as a bone - absolutely no ice on the first pitch. We scouted the upper sections and they were also thin and discontinuous....
How did you scout Guiness from Golden.
I've always done it from Field.
Must be a really long approach from Golden.
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richard_noggin said:
...What you think I don't know what is going on in the real world.
EXACTLY.
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First Forest Fee Action Alert of 2003
Forest Service about to implement National Passes.
WHAT TO DO:
Please fax Congressman Scott McInnis, Chair of House Forest and Forest Health subcommittee, and Senator Larry Craig, Chair of Senate Forests and Public Land Management Subcommittee. Ask them to stop the Forest Service's planned National Pass and to end the Fee Demo program.
Please print your name and address very clearly!
Congressman Scott McInnis DC Fax 202-225-0521
Sen. Larry Craig DC Fax 202-228-1067
If you find the fax lines busy, try in the evening or try their District Office fax numbers:
Sen. Larry Craig, Boise, ID (208) 343-2458
Congressman Scott McInnis, Glenwood Springs, CO, (970) 928-0630
TIMELINE? There's no deadline for this fax alert; keep sending them through March!
BACKGROUND, INCLUDING THE FOREST SERVICE'S 2.11.03 INTERNAL MEMO ON THE PROPOSED NATIONAL PASS
Beginning in mid-April the Forest Service will begin implementing the key elements of the Administration's Fee Demo permanent legislation of 2002. Although this legislation was not even introduced in Congress last year due to overwhelming opposition both from Congress and the public, the Forest Service is implementing these changes now, administratively. The Recreational Fee Demonstration Program is set to expire in October 2004 and Congress seems unwilling to grant permanent authorization to National Forest fees.
The three key elements that will take effect in April are:
1) Basic Fees-These fees will be charged for all National Forest lands where fees are currently charged - and future Fee Demo sites. These sites include picnic tables, trailheads, and unimproved areas such as areas covered by the Northwest Forest Pass, California's Adventure Pass and Arizona's Red Rock Pass. The concept of "Basic Fees" expands the present practice of user and parking fees, to include entrance fees for the public's use of their National Forests.
2) Expanded Fee-Expanded Fees are charged on top of and in addition to "Basic Fees". These fees include not just campgrounds and interpretive programs, but backcountry activities such as mountain climbing as well.
3) National Passes-for the first time the Forest Service will begin honoring all National Park Passes. This
revenue sharing scheme is meant to create a National Pass for entrance onto all public lands.
In a Forest Service internal memo (see below) dated February 11th Recreation Fee Demonstration Program Leader Teri Cleeland stated that one of the primary reasons the Forest Service is making these changes now is that "legislation may force action that is unfavorable for all agencies. This step forward could alter that the possibility".
Robert Funkhouser, President of the Western Slope No-Fee Coalition, a group that opposes the program, states "these changes by the Forest Service are meant not just to influence Congress but to tie Congress's hands in dealing with this unpopular program. More and more members of the House and Senate are opposing the continuation of the Fee Demo program on National Forests. Selling National Passes in April for entrance into millions of acres of public lands when Fee Demo may be terminated by August is unethical and unwarranted. These public lands belong to the American public and taxpayers shouldn't have to buy a National Pass to walk or drive on their own lands."
"Fee Demo was started as an appropriations rider in 1996 and has been extended three times through the appropriations process" says No-Fee co-founder Kitty Benzar."There has never been public input or congressional debating on the merits of the program. And now the Forest Service takes it on their own to implement a new National Pass. The public does not support Fee Demo. It is time that Congress puts an end to the program once and for all.
Again, please contact the above listed legislators and ask them to stop the Forest Service from implementing these changes. Please also write the editor of your local paper. The Forest Service memo is attached.
Thank you,
Yours,
Alasdair Coyne,
Keep Sespe Wild,
(Our thanks to the Western Slope No Fee Coalition.)
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Subject: Rec. Fee Sites Golden Passport Changes coming in April
1. This change is in response to the public's request for a simpler/interagency fee program.
5. Site of sale receives 80% of the revenue, with 20% redistributed based on criteria.
(See attached file: Refeathering the Golden Passports_02.10.03.doc)
USDA Forest Service, RHWR, 4 Central, Stop 1125
"Refeathering" the Golden Eagle - Golden Age and Golden
Highlights of the Revised Golden Passport Program
Key Action Next 90 Days Approximate Date
Letters to RF's and Regional Rec. Directors
from the Chief and Rec. Director announcing changes 2/18
Articles in FS Today, Fee Demo memo Feb, Mar.
Weekly Field e-mail updates Beginning 2/10
Talking Points sent to the field 2/14
Employee Info Packet sent to field. Includes:
Q&A, Info sheets on changes, How to sell a pass, revenue
distribution, compliance, examples of signs First week of
Products distributed to field. Plastic hang tags,
brochures, Passports, signs Mid March
Employee Training Mid March - mid April
Public Announcement Early - mid April
1800 Number and Web Site operational Mid April
If you have questions or comments please send them to
<a href="mailto:Goldens@mymethow.com">sespewild@earthlink.net">sespewild@earthlink.net</a>
(Our thanks to the Western Slope No Fee Coalition.)
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Subject: Rec. Fee Sites Golden Passport Changes coming in April
1. This change is in response to the public's request for a simpler/interagency fee program.
5. Site of sale receives 80% of the revenue, with 20% redistributed based on criteria.
(See attached file: Refeathering the Golden Passports_02.10.03.doc)
USDA Forest Service, RHWR, 4 Central, Stop 1125
"Refeathering" the Golden Eagle - Golden Age and Golden
Highlights of the Revised Golden Passport Program
Key Action Next 90 Days Approximate Date
Letters to RF's and Regional Rec. Directors
from the Chief and Rec. Director announcing changes 2/18
Articles in FS Today, Fee Demo memo Feb, Mar.
Weekly Field e-mail updates Beginning 2/10
Talking Points sent to the field 2/14
Employee Info Packet sent to field. Includes:
Q&A, Info sheets on changes, How to sell a pass, revenue
distribution, compliance, examples of signs First week of
Products distributed to field. Plastic hang tags,
brochures, Passports, signs Mid March
Employee Training Mid March - mid April
Public Announcement Early - mid April
1800 Number and Web Site operational Mid April
If you have questions or comments please send them to
<a href="mailto:Goldens@mymethow.com
? Key Terms:
o Basic Fee. Fees for the use of basic recreation services
and facilities such as entrance into national monuments and
recreation areas and (upon implementation of this proposal)
significantly developed day-use recreation sites such as
picnic sites, trailheads, and boat ramp parking and high
impact recreation areas. The fee is typically implemented
on a per vehicle basis.
o Expanded Fee. A fee that covers specialized outdoor
recreation sites and services such as campgrounds, cabin
rentals, climbing, river use, and interpretive programs.
Fees are collected at point-of-service.
? Golden Eagle Passports will be sold for $65 and honored at
all FS, NPS, BLM, and FWS sites charging entrance fees. In
addition, the Golden Eagle Passport will be honored at FS
sites charging "basic fees" as described in the Blueprint.
Local, regional and multi-forest passes for day and annual
use may also continue to be sold. The Golden Eagle Passport
does not provide a 50% discount for campground or other
"expanded fee" services. Concessionaires operating "basic"
or "expanded" fee sites are not required to honor the Golden
Eagle Passport.
? Golden Age and Access Passports. Golden Age Passports will
continue to be sold as lifetime passes for $10 each. Golden
Access Passports will continue to be free lifetime passes.
These passes will be honored at all FS, NPS, BLM, and FWS
sites charging entrance fees. In addition, Golden Age and
Golden Access Passports will be honored at FS sites charging
"basic fees" as described in the Blueprint, and will
continue to be honored for a 50% discount on "expanded fees"
at campgrounds and developed boat launches.
Concessionaires operating "basic fee" sites and "expanded
fee" campground and developed boat launches generally will
provide a 50% discount to holders of Golden Age or Golden
Access Passports (subject to the provisions contained within
individual special use authorizations).
Discounts will not apply to other "expanded fee" sites, such
as:
o Facility or equipment rentals (cabins, lookouts, group
day-use or overnight sites)
o Special conservation programs (such as heritage
expeditions and tours)
o Transportation systems
o Reservation services
o Personal use permits and motorized use permits (for
managed OHV areas).
? Passport Design. The existing Passports will continue to
be used (currently a wallet card). At locations utilizing a
vehicle-based compliance program, the pass will be displayed
in the front window of the vehicle. (Plastic holders to
facilitate this display will be provided to all field units
for free distribution.) Where the fee system is not
vehicle-based (e.g. some visitor centers), the holder may
simply carry the card and display it upon request.
Procedures must be developed to address how passes are
displayed on open-top vehicles and motorcycles, or where
wristbands or other "wearable" passes are in use.
? Sales. Passports will be available from FS units that
have fee sites that will honor the Golden Eagle .
Agreements with local vendors may be established to sell the
Golden Eagle Passport. A third party, centralized vendor
for Golden Eagle Passports will be established to provide
Internet and 1-800 phone sales. Each vendor will handle
receipts and fulfillment.
? Revenue Distribution. Eighty percent of revenues
generated from Golden Eagle/Age Passport sales will be
retained at the point of sale. The remaining 20% will be
added to 100% of revenues generated by centralized sales.
These funds will be redistributed using a weighted formula
based on each Region's percentage of fee demo receipts
(50%), visitation (25%), and the percentage of deferred
maintenance (25%).
? Expenditures. Regional boards will allocate revenues to
be expended on project categories addressed in the fee demo
legislation. Each regional board may elect the process used
to allocate funds.
? Marketing and Communications. Passport products will be
visible at all FS offices. All FS Internet sites will
offer information and a link to the centralized vendor. The
third party vendor will provide prominent web and 1-800
sales presence. Information on the expanded Golden Passport
program will be added to the existing Federal Recreation
Pass Programs brochure. Training for FS front liners will
be provided, including Question & Answer resources.
Information regarding the Golden Passport program may be
added to local FS publications, newsletters and mailings. A
news release template will be provided for local use.
Comparison of Golden Passport Programs
Table 1. Summary of Current Benefits
Entrance Fee Basic Fee Sites Expanded Fee Sites
Golden Eagle
Yes No No
Golden Age
Yes 50% discount 50% discount for
campgrounds and
developed boat launches
Golden Access
Yes 50% discount 50% discount for
campgrounds and
developed boat launches
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sexual_chocolate said: Estoy confudado, senor. Ayudame, por favor.
Te gusta sida?
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...ISO SWM for short-term commitment and good times.
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freeclimb9 said:
Tire fire in the parking lot with cans of Oly in hand! Them crushed empties make for decent skeet. They jig and shuck like chukars.
Heell yeeaaah!
Fuk'n eh! Now, we're talkin'.
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Even when it rains there it is still very climbable, because the walls are so vertical that it takes a real deluge to get the routes wet. Come one, come all to the "Vertical Club" of Eastern Washington. Over-run the place , trash it, grid-bolt it, poop under every rock, bring your dog, your cell phone, your laptop, your girlfriend, your mom, your ghetto box, your parking permit, your rack of quickdraws and your urban attitudes. The Access fund needs something to do.
Forgive them for they know not what they do.
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I would not say that the Ergo or the new BD tool ( Fusion ) suck on ice. They just swing differently. With your wrist held at the same angle the pick is in a radically different position and takes a lot of getting used to, especially with the Ergo . Less so with the Fusion which swings much more naturally; more like traditional tools (framing hammers, axes, picks, straighter shafted ice tools) that we have more experience with. But the more extreme the angle of the Ergo's grip definitely allows you to pull harder and really comes into its own on the vertical or overhanging, whether it is rock or ice.
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You can send it to me and I will put it on my rack and "test" it for the next 20 years.
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I am so ashamed.
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I was in Banff/Canmore area 2/19 - 3/3 and climbed: SARs on Ice and Five Seven Zero in the David Thompson, King Creek Seepages in the Kananaskis ( borrowed some Charlet Moser Ergos from a Mountain Magic employee and experimented with leashless climbing), Moonlight in Evan Thomas Creek in the Kananaskis (the first 30 meters was very thin ), Expert's Choice - left side in Waterton (an amazing and beautiful piece of ice. We started up a freestanding column on the right side but turned tail and ran away to the left side when the column cracked and dropped 4 inches with my first tool placement. It was minus thirty that day.), Quick and Dirty in Waterton, Professor Falls in Banff (solo), Johnston Canyon (WI 5 cragging), Marion Falls in the Waiparous (North Ghost River area. We thought we were climbing The Ice Funnel WI 4 but were in the wrong drainage and actually climbed Marion Falls WI 5, the very climb that I had tried to sell the others on the night before. Everyone that climbs in the Ghost has a Ghost Story.), Polar Circus as a party of four, topped out before noon, Sport mixed climbing in Grotto Canyon and Haffner Creek where we ran into Kim Csizmazia who was doing major posing for some type of photo shoot, probably for the new Black Diamond leashless tool, The Fusion. She let us try them out; they swing more naturally than the Charlet Moser Ergo.
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michael_layton said:
I have a slip-stream in my bathroom every morning.
Is that what you call it when your bowels loosen up too much?
A daily fiber supplement will usually stabilize things.
Take care not to get dehydrated.
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michael_layton said:
I have a slip-stream in my bathroom every morning. Damn woody.
More inforrmation than anyone wanted, I'm sure.
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erik said:
josh,
cept less likely to see hotties in sport tops in banff right now!
to each their own!
Banff is crawling with hotties. Maybe not many in sport tops right now, but many are loaded. And some of them are climbing leashless and leading M8 or better. Ice festival this weekend in Canmore.
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michael_layton said:
How long do you foresee Slipstream being in for?
Until it kills someone.
Is Slipstream on your list?
or,
Are you on Slipstream's list?
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David_Parker said:
Slipstream is also looking sweet!
Borderline is in too.
Who's climbing at the gym Thursday/Friday?
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Try looking for a partner in the nearest public restroom.