Chuck: "Is this a call for privatization of USFScampgrounds?
-Too late. It has already happened. U.S.Trails. Where have you been?
leithal, Be careful what entities get involved in aquisition. The last thing we need is another fiasco like Peshastin Pinnacles being turned over to the State Park system. It should have become property of some sort of local cooperative entity. You now get expensive tickets for being in the parking lot after a specific hour, which changes. When was the last time you were overdue on a climb? For me it is like 50% of the time.
Slezyjackoffski, No new buildings in the Icicle? Where have you been. Every time I drive up there, there is a new building. Someone will build there. Should it be something that will benefit the climbing community or a private residence that may or may not be ammenable to the climbing public crossing or climbing on their property? You do not need a bunkhouse, momma &pappa's garage works just fine for you. Some of us are sick of getting hassled by "THE MAN". THE MAN is systematically shutting down the "plenty of free places to camp". I took my kid camping up there a couple of weeks ago and hiked into a closed USFS campground. I couldn't use the outhouses because THE MAN has deadbolt locks on all the doors. THE MAN doesn't want anyone to shit in the woods without opening up their wallet. "the truth is, "if you build it THEY will come..." and then the icicle won't be the prestine and vacant place it is....
Sheesh! " The truth is: THEY ARE ALREADY HERE. And the Icicle is not pristine or vacant.
I picture something like a primitive hostel. A place to sleep with a roof. A common area too cook in. Full of people having cool fun; not people in RVs. And CHEAP!!!