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I miss the heyday of cc.com. It did get a bit spicy here for a while, but the flamers just added color along with the other characters here, imo, and the worst of it was easily ignored (also, I thought the mods did a good job of balancing freedom of expression and maintaining civil discussion). I found it great entertainment and was my first choice for distraction from work. Great climbing beta, ideas and inspiration and helpful when I had specific questions, which is what originally brought me here. I was on here daily for a few years. Now I am here less than once/month and it could be less as not much happens in that time. I climb a lot less now that I have a family and more work responsibility, but will still come when I need beta. My only regret was not coming out to one of the rope-ups or sausage parties to meet all you weirdos.

RBW!!! well though this site has always had more than its share of jackasses, there have been many gems as well; sometimes they were even the same people. I've met many friends and climbing partners and even my charming (??) curmudgeonly husband because of this site; so I have a lot to thank it for. I met rbw through wreckdotclimbing, though; talk about the primitive pre-social media days, wow.

This was a great lineup on Saturday, Scurlock had everyone cracking up, he has a great sense of humor. Videos are up on the NWAC youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXKN3Cu9rnnkukkiUUgjzFQ

@CascadeClimber I received those too, and you know that. I am sorry that happened to you, and you definitely did not deserve it, as did anyone else. I can assure if anyone received harassment it was me. I'm not disputing that part, but to say we didn't do anything about it isn't accurate whatsoever, and those two/three guys were gone far before the site "peaked". Should we have done something about it sooner and more forcefully, yes. Are there other people who were also were problematic we should have gotten rid of sooner. Probably yes. But dare I say it this also happened 17 years ago! Is it really fair for us to keep getting dragged through the mud about decisions we made that long ago that we have learned from an moved on from? We also could have done everything right back then and still be in the same place.

I'm really surprised to read this bit and it's a pretty unfair version of history, although I'll be the first to admit that a lot of the trolls and general bad behavior likely caused a lot of lasting damage that will take time to fix. Yes, there was some really terrible behavior early on and those people were permanently banned. Should it happened quicker? I don't know, probably. Nobody handed us an owners manual when we started this; I was barely 24 when we went live. There are definitely people who I wish I had 86'ed earlier. But you of all people should have known how much we struggled with how to deal with these situtations, which is why I kind of find the "Ad impressions and the trolls won out" astonishing to read. We have never made a decision here for money. Did the trolls win? This site has been online for 18 years and has 8800+ TRs, so I'd argue no. Did they leave a lasting bruise, sure. I have however come to accept this world has changed, there was no iPhone, FB, IG, millions of apps vying for your attention when we first started. This was one of a handful of a small handful of climbing sites.