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A transplant support group may be in order. While the transition may be slow, the grass only gets greener.

Attended last week here in SLC. Tim puts on a good show, worth the $.

Check out World Wind (free download) put out by NASA.

Alpinedave and I each scored a 60m in thanks to a EDK caught in a rope groove typical of many sandstone rap stations. Knot was face down and the fist of rope caught on the edge.

I’ve got a bootied 60m that says otherwise.

Source? Seems similar to the micro cracks in cams myth.

Maybe in the Batmobile, usually 7 hours by bus. In any case, I'll second Peru.

OR cannot suspend a WA license nor is a traffic conviction transferable to the state of WA. All OR can do is issue a bench warrant(no way) or suspend your license in OR. No mo’ going fast in OR, but after five years of road trips through the state and even short term residency, It hasn’t been a problem.

Just ignore it. After receiving a ticket close to a grand, I didn’t pay a dime and trashed all notices I received in the mail. No impact on insurance or my Washington driving record. Of course, now I have to drive the speed limit in OR. As for the court appearance idea, be prepared to appear multiple times.

mneagle: Na dude, you are so wrong. In this case I’m looking at “wilderness” as the quantity and quality of undeveloped land, not the specific environmental politics of the region. I agree with your observations concerning the marginal value placed on the environment by local and federal governments, but the fact remains Utah has enough wilderness to last a lifetime. You will agree with me too unless you are blind or dense.

Without a doubt Salt Lake; having just moved here from Seattle, here’s my take on the place: • The variety, accessibility, and quantity of rock climbing can’t be beat • In LCC you can ice climb, rock climb, and ski all in the same day. • The Wasatch are amazing. Although they don’t have the alpine climbing of the North Cascades, you can’t hit the North Cascades after work. • Moab is 3 hours away (towers, MTB) • Tetons, Devils tower within striking distance • Wilderness is equal to that of WA • Alcohol is not an issue, just get used to buying wine, liquor, and real beer at liquor stores. • Mormon culture is no problem. I don’t see how people can complain about it unless they had kids in school outside the city where peer pressure may be a concern; or you enjoyed being involved in local government. • More diversity than Boise, but obviously less than Seattle. • Squid’s observation on the chicks is not off-base.

Index or x38, belay or ropegun, beer or other . PM reply.

Going to Index on Monday. Open for rock, alpine, or anything else 'til the end of the Month.

What I need: 9mm rope (very good shape) Pickets Ice Screws Light down bag (anything from -10 to +10) This is what I got to trade: New (in bag) 10.6 Dry Bi Color PMI Cirque Rope Bunch'o used 10.5 rope GA8(?) Strap-on crampons XL OR Overboots Fish portaledge (single w/ fly) Aiders (2) $$$ (not much) Please PM offer

Got a FISH single w/ fly. Used but no rips or holes. Make an offer.