Mountain Pr0n
Ice Climbing at Paul...
Ice Climbing at Paul...
Contributed by: Mike_G
more photos
Supporting Sponsors



Pro Mountain Sports
Thermawrap Parka 12.8oz



CC.com Articles *READ ME!*
Intro to Ice Climbing
Intro to Back Country Skiing
Metolius Offset Review
Equipment for Alpinism
Showcase : Integral Designs Reflexion Bivy
PayPal
Who's Online
4 Registered (Bigtree, Feck, letsroll, 1 invisible), 7 Guests and 0 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
18133 Members
53 Forums
72623 Topics
943427 Posts

Max Online: 627 @ 12/18/06 12:02 AM
Top TR Contributors
ivan 69
tvashtarkatena 64
off_the_hook 61
telemarker 47
G-spotter 47
catbirdseat 46
gapertimmy 42
Feck 41
layton 38
Blake 38
Page 1 of 14 1 2 3 ... 13 14 >
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#594985 - 09/11/06 10:53 AM my opinions of CC.com
Gary_Yngve Offline
spray'prentice

Registered: 03/04/02
Posts: 3560
TRs: 36 Photos: 0
Loc: UW
A few days ago, I asked about recommended guidebooks for other areas. The thread went to the toilet immediately. I had to post a second thread insisting on no BS to get answers.

A few days ago, when I suggested that Newbies have better etiquette, Alpinfox responded to the effect of, "I don't care. This is my entertainment."

From the Beckey-Chouinard thread:
Quote:


There's a bunch more CC.commers who were up in the Bugs who haven't posted their adventures here. I can think of 8 off the top of my head.

That's special. Do you know Dean or Timmy?





I think the reason more people (perhaps including the above people -- and I just remembered another two folks who were up in the Bugs in the past month) aren't posting reports here is because there are a bunch of hoodlums using this site as their anarchist's playground, ready to pounce on the scapegoat of the month when they're not distracted by spraying their inane juvenile dribble on the latest thread.

This site has never been about rules, so what I'm asking is:

1) What's the consensus of everyone who posts here regarding spray, insults, hijacking, abuse of newbs, etc.? (Opinions of real people, not avatars.)

2) Will the "abusers" voluntarily control themselves if consensus dictates as such?

I haven't posted trip reports / photos here in about a month partially because of my frustrations with certain posters on this site, and for now, I think I'll keep it that way.

Top Bookmark and Share
#594986 - 09/11/06 10:57 AM Re: my opinions of CC.com
cj001f Offline
sprayer

Registered: 12/04/00
Posts: 8219
TRs: 0 Photos: 13
Quote:

A few days ago, I asked about recommended guidebooks for other areas. The thread went to the toilet immediately.



Gary,
The areas you were requesting info on have numerous threads rec'ing guidebooks already. You are just looking for spoon feeding. Amusingly, when people ask you for information, you blow them off. So get stuffed.

Top Bookmark and Share
#594987 - 09/11/06 10:59 AM Re: my opinions of CC.com
Cobra_Commander Offline
spray'prentice

Registered: 01/31/05
Posts: 3170
TRs: 0 Photos: 6
Loc: Lair
there really haven't been enough reports from the bugaboos the last few days. I think another 8 of them would be in order.
_________________________
Why buy a mattress anywhere else ding!

Top Bookmark and Share
#594988 - 09/11/06 11:04 AM Re: my opinions of CC.com
Gary_Yngve Offline
spray'prentice

Registered: 03/04/02
Posts: 3560
TRs: 36 Photos: 0
Loc: UW
CJ, I'll search for guidebook recs on CC.com before I contest your claim. But I see nothing wrong with asking for spoonfeeding. It probably takes a whiner more effort to complain to me than for the resident expert to give their opinions.

Regarding me giving info, I'm more than happy to give it. I don't think I've ever refused to give info. It's very possible that if an info request was made in a thread (as opposed to a PM), then I simply never saw it. I'd be interested in seeing any evidence you dig up.

Top Bookmark and Share
#594989 - 09/11/06 11:05 AM Re: my opinions of CC.com
jakov Offline
stranger

Registered: 03/16/06
Posts: 17
TRs: 1 Photos: 2
sonn will come Jakov and newest for many peeks!

Top Bookmark and Share
#594990 - 09/11/06 11:05 AM Re: my opinions of CC.com
cj001f Offline
sprayer

Registered: 12/04/00
Posts: 8219
TRs: 0 Photos: 13
Quote:

Regarding me giving info, I'm more than happy to give it. I don't think I've ever refused to give info.



You just didn't bother when I PM'd you for Lofoten info

Top Bookmark and Share
#594991 - 09/11/06 11:07 AM Re: my opinions of CC.com
Winter Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 11/13/00
Posts: 2270
TRs: 15 Photos: 162
Loc: freshiez!
Getting worked up about who posts what is only going to lead to misery and frustration. Fuck it. Use what you like and ignore the rest.
_________________________
chriswinter.blogspot.com

Top Bookmark and Share
#594992 - 09/11/06 11:07 AM Re: my opinions of CC.com
fenderfour Offline
spray'prentice

Registered: 06/30/03
Posts: 2881
TRs: 13 Photos: 19
Typically, TR's are treated with a modicum of respect even by the "hoodlums".

Other reasons to NOT post a TR.

-It was a lame trip
-It was the same trip others have recently taken
-It takes work
-nothing special happened
-...
_________________________
Striving for mediocrity

Top Bookmark and Share
#594993 - 09/11/06 11:10 AM Re: my opinions of CC.com
ScottP Offline
spray'prentice

Registered: 04/22/01
Posts: 2676
TRs: 0 Photos: 61
Loc: 7th Circle

Consensus? We ain't got no consensus. We don't need no consensus.
We don't have to show you any stinking consensus!"

Top Bookmark and Share
#594994 - 09/11/06 11:11 AM Re: my opinions of CC.com
Gary_Yngve Offline
spray'prentice

Registered: 03/04/02
Posts: 3560
TRs: 36 Photos: 0
Loc: UW
CJ, I don't have record of that PM (probably too long ago), but I'm guessing I replied with something like, "Here's a little bit of info. I'm really busy now. I'll get back to you later," and then I forgot about it and I never heard back from you.

Pretty much standard operating procedure.

Top Bookmark and Share
#594995 - 09/11/06 11:13 AM Re: my opinions of CC.com
Mr_Phil Offline
old hand

Registered: 06/14/06
Posts: 982
TRs: 0 Photos: 0
Loc: In the heat of the moment
Yes, we need more trip reports from

Complete North Ridge of Stuart
Backbone Ridge on Dragontail
Colchuck Balanced Rock

Zzzzzzz

Top Bookmark and Share
#594996 - 09/11/06 11:15 AM Re: my opinions of CC.com
Cobra_Commander Offline
spray'prentice

Registered: 01/31/05
Posts: 3170
TRs: 0 Photos: 6
Loc: Lair
Quote:

sonn will come Jakov and newest for many peeks!




good jakov, reports from trip kick mule
_________________________
Why buy a mattress anywhere else ding!

Top Bookmark and Share
#594997 - 09/11/06 11:15 AM Re: my opinions of CC.com
Jake Porter Administrator Offline
☼☼☼☼☼☼☼

Registered: 09/19/03
Posts: 21289
TRs: 31 Photos: 740
Loc: In Love with You
I would miss your postings Gary. Please don't leave.

Just use the *ignore this user* feature.
_________________________
Trust but verify

Top Bookmark and Share
#594998 - 09/11/06 11:16 AM Re: my opinions of CC.com
cj001f Offline
sprayer

Registered: 12/04/00
Posts: 8219
TRs: 0 Photos: 13
Quote:

I replied with "I'm really busy now." and then I blew you off.

Pretty much standard cc.com operating procedure.





Top Bookmark and Share
#594999 - 09/11/06 11:26 AM Re: my opinions of CC.com
chucK Offline
sprayer

Registered: 01/12/01
Posts: 5917
TRs: 20 Photos: 60
Loc: the ruthless 9 to 5
Quote:



1) What's the consensus of everyone who posts here regarding spray, insults, hijacking, abuse of newbs, etc.? (Opinions of real people, not avatars.)






I think abusing newbs is lame, and it seems like most people agree lately. There seems to be remarkable restraint lately on the behalf of the hoodlums in terms of not picking on newbs. Of course, we're talking newb posters here. Big difference in terms of abusing newbs who aren't here (e.g. Mounties). There seems to be a big increase in new faces the last couple of months, and with a few exceptions I think they've not been harassed.

With respect to hijacking, there are definite degrees. Spray sees a lot hijacking, but you're warned there to have a thick skin. TR's see more subtle hijacking (obvious ones are quickly deleted by mods usually), like say a TR about a really cool route in the Bugaboos getting derailed by someone coyly suggesting that they've been to the Bugaboos too and know other people who have been there. What the hell does that have to do with the Howser Tower? Ooops, getting sidetracked .....

But anyway, as with all threads of this nature I will end with DLTDHYITA! (Don't let the doorknob hit you in the ass)

Top Bookmark and Share
#595000 - 09/11/06 11:31 AM Re: my opinions of CC.com
catbirdseat Offline
Elite Sprayforce Team

Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 13179
TRs: 46 Photos: 144
Loc: Anaheim, CA
Quote:

Yes, we need more trip reports from

Complete North Ridge of Stuart
Backbone Ridge on Dragontail
Colchuck Balanced Rock

Zzzzzzz


Right and you should be the judge of what is too many reports and not the rest of us? If you think there are too many reports, stop reading them, don't shit on them.
_________________________
You don't do an encore if you just played Mahler.

Top Bookmark and Share
#595001 - 09/11/06 11:32 AM Re: my opinions of CC.com
counterfeitfake Offline
veteran

Registered: 06/10/05
Posts: 1306
TRs: 9 Photos: 11
Loc: in ur base
CAN'T REPLY
TOO BUSY SPRAYING

From what I see, TRs generally get thumbs-up. I've written trip reports for the Sulphide Glacier (woohoo) and NW Arete of Argonaut, these aren't hardman climbs but the reception was generally encouraging.

I think Gary has the perception he states above because people like to spray on him, specifically. Because he'll react all indignant and affronted.


Edited by counterfeitfake (09/11/06 11:34 AM)
_________________________
That's all I can think of, but I'm sure there's something else...

Top Bookmark and Share
#595002 - 09/11/06 11:35 AM Re: my opinions of CC.com
Gary_Yngve Offline
spray'prentice

Registered: 03/04/02
Posts: 3560
TRs: 36 Photos: 0
Loc: UW
ChucK, my comment was a direct followup to Oly's note that there have been a lot of CC.commers in the Bugs, many more than those who actually posted TRs. I pulled tangential discussion away to here, as I've learned that people may not like it when I go photogeek on their TRs.

Oly, I'll give Ignore User a try.

Top Bookmark and Share
#595003 - 09/11/06 11:36 AM Re: my opinions of CC.com
G-spotter Offline
Spray Master

Registered: 12/20/01
Posts: 12138
TRs: 47 Photos: 352
Loc: free range
Quote:

A few days ago, I asked about recommended guides for other areas. The thread went to the toilet immediately. I had to post a second thread insisting on no BS to get answers.




If only you'd picked up the guide I recommended for you, you wouldn't be making this waaaahmbulance post now.
_________________________
Bagging a cougar is one of the most enjoyable sporting feats a young man can accomplish

Top Bookmark and Share
#595004 - 09/11/06 11:36 AM Re: my opinions of CC.com
Cobra_Commander Offline
spray'prentice

Registered: 01/31/05
Posts: 3170
TRs: 0 Photos: 6
Loc: Lair
Heck yeah. The TR's with great pictures and story are GREAT even if it's heading up Helens or something. The main reason I come here is to escape the reality of work to read and look at photos. And to post incredibly hilarious prose that everyone loves.
_________________________
Why buy a mattress anywhere else ding!

Top Bookmark and Share
#595005 - 09/11/06 11:42 AM Re: my opinions of CC.com
Choada_Boy Offline
veteran

Registered: 09/05/05
Posts: 1493
TRs: 3 Photos: 31
Loc: Your Mom's House
Why post a TR at all? It's just a waste of 1's and 0's, unless it's an FA, FWA, FS, FFS, FWS, or a second ascent (to confirm the rating). Should I post a TR every time I do a climb that's already been done a hundred times? LAME...

"We climbed [insert name of trade route HERE] and I'd like the whole world to read about my experience." Save it for your diary.

Top Bookmark and Share
#595006 - 09/11/06 11:44 AM Re: my opinions of CC.com
Jake Porter Administrator Offline
☼☼☼☼☼☼☼

Registered: 09/19/03
Posts: 21289
TRs: 31 Photos: 740
Loc: In Love with You
Quote:

Heck yeah. The TR's with great pictures and story are GREAT even if it's heading up Helens or something. The main reason I come here is to escape the reality of work to read and look at photos. And to post incredibly hilarious prose that everyone loves.




The number reason to log on to CC.com is to see what Cobra is up to. His prose really is extraordinary, and the wit, the wit...don't get me started about the wit. And to read TRs too. Those are good. Imagine if Cobra posted a TR? I'd hate to see what would happen to my keyboard and monitor.
_________________________
Trust but verify

Top Bookmark and Share
#595007 - 09/11/06 11:47 AM Re: my opinions of CC.com
counterfeitfake Offline
veteran

Registered: 06/10/05
Posts: 1306
TRs: 9 Photos: 11
Loc: in ur base
CC.com is my diary.
_________________________
That's all I can think of, but I'm sure there's something else...

Top Bookmark and Share
#595008 - 09/11/06 11:50 AM Re: my opinions of CC.com
RuMR Offline
Spray Master

Registered: 04/26/02
Posts: 11078
TRs: 0 Photos: 61
Loc: Seattle
Quote:

Why post a TR at all? It's just a waste of 1's and 0's, unless it's an FA, FWA, FS, FFS, FWS, or a second ascent (to confirm the rating). Should I post a TR every time I do a climb that's already been done a hundred times? LAME...

"We climbed [insert name of trade route HERE] and I'd like the whole world to read about my experience." Save it for your diary.




...and then once, like, i went to an REI store, and like, got all ferocious-looking-like and scared the employees into giving me another helmet...it was RAD

geer notes:
one helmet, freshly sat upon
two beerz, for liquid courage
one puny employee
keyboard for chestbeat spray fest tr

Approach notes:
-go up the stairs to the customer service dep't
-locate most-frightened looking employee
-start hyperventilation and foaming at the mouth to more closely approximate a rabid tool
-quickly locate nearest cybercafe to spray while the adrenaline is flowin'
_________________________
DWAYNER SAYS : BOOO BOOO BOOOOO BOOOO

Top Bookmark and Share
#595009 - 09/11/06 11:50 AM Re: my opinions of CC.com
Jake Porter Administrator Offline
☼☼☼☼☼☼☼

Registered: 09/19/03
Posts: 21289
TRs: 31 Photos: 740
Loc: In Love with You
Quote:

Why post a TR at all? It's just a waste of 1's and 0's, unless it's an FA, FWA, FS, FFS, FWS, or a second ascent (to confirm the rating). Should I post a TR every time I do a climb that's already been done a hundred times? LAME...

"We climbed [insert name of trade route HERE] and I'd like the whole world to read about my experience." Save it for your diary.




But imagine if a sniffling sycophant wants to read your diary with hopes of savoring the bread crumbs of your send of the dog route? What if the cube walls would come crushing in if we didn't hear about the 1000000000000000th ascent of das toof? Open up your diary, Master Choad, and let the little people like me have a peek at a true alpinist. With pics please. Condescend to post your experiences Master Choad, and inspire the masses.
_________________________
Trust but verify

Top Bookmark and Share
Page 1 of 14 1 2 3 ... 13 14 >


Moderator:  JayB, minx, Off_White 


Generated in 0.575 seconds in which 0.407 seconds were spent on a total of 14 queries. Zlib compression enabled.