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#264027 - 10/24/03 09:54 AM Road Closures
Bronco Offline
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I thought we needed a thread for listing information on road closures, so here it is.

Link to Everett Herald article listing several closures in the Granite Falls/Darrington area:

http://www.heraldnet.com/Stories/03/10/24/17662345.cfm

I also read Hwy 410 to Cayuse Pass is closed indefinetly at the park boundry becasue of storm damage.

As we all heard, HWY 20 is closed for the season.

Mattp mentioned the FS road to the Darrington Rock climbing area is closed 5 miles from the normal trailhead.

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#264028 - 10/24/03 10:10 AM Re: Road Closures
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I was just thinking the same thing Bronco. I'll make it a temporary sticky. Anyone else know of any closures?
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#264029 - 10/24/03 10:25 AM Re: Road Closures
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that is a crazy picture of the sr20. i don't imagine it will be too easy to get up to washington pass skiing in the early spring.

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#264030 - 10/24/03 12:43 PM Re: Road Closures
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Quote:

Crackbolter said:
2060
Clear Creek
10/21/2003: CLOSED
Closed 1.6 miles up by150’ x 3’ deep debris deposit on road and changed channel.

23
White Chuck
10/21/2003: CLOSED
Closed at 1.4 miles due to road washout 100-150’ x 40’ wide x 20’ deep.

26
Suiattle River
10/21/2003: CLOSED
14.5 miles up
Closed at 14.5 miles where 200’ of road has been washed away by river.



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#264031 - 10/24/03 02:04 PM Re: Road Closures
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#264032 - 10/24/03 02:38 PM Re: Road Closures
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The mrnp site says that other than the 410 closure all the other roads are fine. I have a hard time believing that the Carbon river road is still in one peice. Any info? Also shouldn't mowich be closing soon?
Thanks, this is good stuff.
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#264033 - 10/24/03 03:04 PM Re: Road Closures
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where does hwy 20 close at, can you still get up the road towards Eldo/Forbidden area? Thanks

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#264034 - 10/24/03 03:07 PM Re: Road Closures
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In your thread, Paco said you can drive to within a mile of the Eldo Creek trailhead.

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#264035 - 10/24/03 03:19 PM Re: Road Closures
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Closed on SR 20 in both directions from Newhalem City Limit to EARLY WINTERS CAMPGROUND per wsdot site.
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#264036 - 10/24/03 03:23 PM Re: Road Closures
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#264037 - 10/25/03 08:48 PM Re: Road Closures
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The Stehekin Road is also SEVERELY damaged, and will need a lot of work. The plans to pave the first 9 miles might be changed (speculation) and as of now there are numerous spots where even bicycling is impossible.
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#264038 - 10/26/03 07:54 PM Re: Road Closures
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The Mtn Loop Hwy is washed out just north of the turnoff for Vesper Peak (Sunrise Mine, Forest Road 4065).
This came as quite a surprise to my partner and me as we were driving towards the Sloan Pk trailhead on Friday night. A strand of pink engineer's tape strung across the road was all that kept us from a 15-20' plunge in the Subaru.

In other news, there is enough snow and verglass on the N. face of Vesper to make it unclimbable for a wimp like me. The NE ridge on Vesper is a nice scramble.

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#264039 - 10/26/03 10:06 PM Re: Road Closures
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On the way from the Darrington side, the Mountain Loop Highway is closed at Bedal. This means you can still get to the east side of Sloan, but not for things like Elliot Creek and Monte Cristo (unless you want to use foot or bike, I suppose). Also, FR-24 is closed 2.6 miles in from Sauk Prairie Road (ENE of Darrington), as is FR-22 down where the MLH crosses the Sauk River. Lastly, though not necessarily important as roads go, FR-2060 leading south from Clear Creek Campground is closed about 1.5 miles in. This road leads to the area around Helena Ridge.
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#264040 - 10/28/03 04:58 PM Re: Road Closures
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Where did the road go?


End of the road:


Mountain Loop Hwy just north of FR 4065 (Vesper Peak/Sunrise Mine Trailhead).
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#264041 - 10/29/03 08:26 PM Re: Road Closures
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Cascade river road washout, Boston Creek.


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#264042 - 10/30/03 06:57 PM Re: Road Closures
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Happened along this link: Closures.
Kennedy Hot Springs is apparently buried in debris now! Also, Colonial Creek decided to relocate the Colonial Creek Campground into Thunder Arm!

Also, the Forest Service Report has some useful information.

It's really gonna suck next year getting to where we'll all want to go. This thread will be very important come next year. Thanks for creating it, Ryan.
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#264043 - 10/30/03 07:13 PM Re: Road Closures
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I heard that the Clear Creek road (to darrington's climbing) had 3 washouts, but that they were actively being filled by the State as of last Friday. It sounded like 2 had been filled by then, so maybe it's all back in shape by now??
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#264044 - 10/31/03 01:44 PM Re: Road Closures
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Quote:

klenke said:
Kennedy Hot Springs is apparently buried in debris now!




That is the most disgusting hot spring I have ever seen. The color and consistency of diarrhea, terrible smell, and last time I was there a small dead frog was bobbing around in the "water".

Good riddance.
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#264045 - 10/31/03 02:27 PM Re: Road Closures
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Quote:

dbb said:
I heard that the Clear Creek road (to darrington's climbing) had 3 washouts, but that they were actively being filled by the State as of last Friday. It sounded like 2 had been filled by then, so maybe it's all back in shape by now??




someone said that there had been a path cleared through the washout (not by the fs but by a climber). can this be confirmed by anyone out there?

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#264046 - 10/31/03 03:29 PM Re: Road Closures
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This Mt. Baker/Snoqulmie NF Road Report seems to be up-to-date regarding conditions (i.e., an updated report appears for those roads that were damaged; some damaged roads are not yet investigated by personnel).

Could it be the FS is on the ball on this one?
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#264047 - 10/31/03 04:13 PM Re: Road Closures
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Quote:

Alpinfox said:
Quote:

klenke said:
Kennedy Hot Springs is apparently buried in debris now!




That is the most disgusting hot spring I have ever seen. The color and consistency of diarrhea, terrible smell, and last time I was there a small dead frog was bobbing around in the "water".

Good riddance.




Amen. That thing is pretty damn sick. It wouldn't be as bad if the water was at least hot. As it is, not only is it sick, but it's just warm.

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#264048 - 10/31/03 04:24 PM Re: Road Closures
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#264049 - 10/31/03 04:29 PM Re: Road Closures
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Anyone know anything about the Static Point road? It was getting sketcy the last time I was up there.
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#264050 - 11/01/03 08:51 PM Re: Road Closures
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Another Washouts Article in The Seattle Times. Noteworthy info given. I'm mad that White Chuck River Road is so badly damaged and that I didn't get into Glacier Peak earlier. Now what am I going to do? Wait 4 years? Go in by some way longer route? Also, it appears access to Dome Peak is now a major problem because of washouts on the Suiattle River Road.

THE ARTICLE

Storm ravaged the mountains

By Diane Brooks
Times Snohomish County bureau

DARRINGTON, Snohomish County--She knew it was gone, ravaged 11 days ago by the swirling White Chuck River.

But Donna Westom, the "mushroom lady" of the University District Farmers Market, had to see it herself.

"This is just a nightmare," said Westom, staring into the 25-foot-deep pit that has replaced a stretch of White Chuck Road, a major access for the Pacific Crest Trail and other regional hiking attractions. "Now I'm going to have to get a real job."

Torrential river and stream flows, fed by record-breaking rains, ripped through the state's national forests and parks Oct. 20 and 21, inflicting millions of dollars in damage upon bridges, roads and trails. Snohomish and Skagit counties suffered the worst damage, federal officials said.

Trails closed within the Mount Baker-Snoqualmie National Forest due to washed-out roads, bridges or trails include:

>>Pacific Crest National Scenic Trail. About 30 miles of trail are impassable due to washed-out bridges between Red Pass and Miners Creek.

>>White Chuck Trail, which leads to Kennedy Hot Springs and the Pacific Crest Trail. White Chuck Road and the trail suffered major damage. The hot springs are buried.

>>Fire Mountain, accessed off the closed White Chuck Road.

>>Meadow Lake and Meadow Mountain, accessed off the closed White Chuck Road.

>>White Chuck Bench, accessed off the closed White Chuck Road.

>>Elliott Creek and Goat Lake, accessed off a closed section of Mountain Loop Highway

>>Suiattle River Trail, due to major trail and road washouts.

>>Milk Creek Trail, due to a major bridge washout and washouts on Suiattle River Road.

>>Green Mountain Trail, due to washouts on Suiattle River Road.

>>Sulphur Mountain, due to washouts on Suiattle River Road.

>>Buck Creek, due to washouts on Suiattle River Road.

>>Monte Cristo, Glacier Basin and Poodle Dog Pass, open but accessed via Monte Cristo Road, which suffered several washouts. Some intrepid hikers are navigating the road breaks.

For additional information on road and trail closures: www.fs.fed.us/r6/mbs.

>>The North Cascades Highway is closed near Newhalem, Whatcom County.
>>The upper Stehekin River Valley was devastated.
>>The Kennedy Hot Springs--accessed from White Chuck Road off the Mountain Loop Highway in Snohomish County--are buried beneath tons of rock.
>>The Mountain Loop is closed in two places, just north of Barlow Pass, but only two major trails lie within the inaccessible two-mile stretch.
>>To the north, the Suiattle River washed out its namesake road and trail, cutting off access to numerous trails and campgrounds.

Everett has a popular day-hike program already hit by the closures. Tomorrow, the city was to take a van of hikers to the Suiattle River Trail for an eight-mile hike. The hikers will instead visit the North Fork of Sauk River.

In Olympic National Park, shore roads are closed on both sides of Lake Quinault. So is Hoh River Road, the main approach used for climbing Mount Olympus. The Nisqually River washed away a footbridge on the Wonderland Trail in Mount Rainier National Park, in the area between Cougar Rock and Carter Falls.

Overall damage estimates haven't been tallied, and federal officials don't know how long it will take to repair the damage or reopen dozens of trails in the Mount Baker and Mountain Loop Highway areas.

"I would guess that in three, four, five years, we'll still be fixing things," said Terry Skorheim, head of the Darrington Ranger District.

The North Cascades National Park yesterday announced it suffered about $1.7 million in road damages, and repairs to trails and other structures will cost an additional $1 million.

The Mount Baker-Snoqualmie Forest, which includes the Mountain Loop and Suiattle River areas, guesses its road and bridge damages total several million dollars. Trails and trail bridges could add several additional millions to the bill.

Two pots of federal money might be available for repairs, said Tim Manns, North Cascades Park spokesman. The National Park Service has a storm-damage fund, and the Federal Highway Association has an emergency-repair budget for federally owned roads.

Repairs could drag out for years unless Congress steps in and allocates extra money to rebuild the roads, bridges and trails, said Elizabeth Lunney, executive director of the Washington Trails Association.

The losses are traumatic because so much work has been invested in the national trail system to repair damage from floods in 1990 and 1995, she said. "People I've talked to (from federal agencies) looked pretty shell-shocked."

Lunney said the biggest losses, from a hikers' perspective, include the Thunder Creek Trail in the North Cascades National Park. "That is a great trail because it's through old growth, it's through lower elevation and it's relatively easy."

White Chuck Road is quite valuable, too, she said.

That 10-mile road, accessed off the Mountain Loop south of Darrington, suffered several major breaks. The White Chuck Trail is "in pieces," said Adrienne Hall, a federal wilderness specialist.

In some spots, the White Chuck River traces new routes through its gravel beds.

At the first break on White Chuck Road, the river overshot a large bend and carved out a huge section of hillside about 200 feet from its normal route. The road ends abruptly, with a clifflike drop.

The only way around is to climb up the steep hillside. Richard Laemmle, a Lynnwood nurse, tried that Thursday. He carried his mountain bike up and around and logged about 10 miles trying unsuccessfully to find another way to the Mountain Loop Highway.

Along the way, he found the second break in White Chuck Road. "It's about four times more washed-out than this," he said, after carrying his bike back around the first divide.

It couldn't be worse, said Westom, who collects mushrooms she sells at the University District market. She estimates she collects mushrooms from 25 forest locations. Now she can't reach any of them, she said.

"I've lived here all my life--52 years--and this is the worst I've ever seen," she said.

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#264051 - 11/01/03 09:39 PM Re: Road Closures
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Quote:

klenke said:
I'm mad that White Chuck River Road is so badly damaged and that I didn't get into Glacier Peak earlier. Now what am I going to do? Wait 4 years? Go in by some way longer route? Also, it appears access to Dome Peak is now a major problem because of washouts on the Suiattle River Road.




Oh boo hoo. How terrible that the mountains just got a little wilder. (sob) Maybe the Ptarmigan traverse will be a little less of a mob scene next summer.

With the Whitechuck and Suiattle both out, I wonder if the White River approach isn't the easiest way in to Glacier next year. Of course, there's always mountain bikes.


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#264052 - 11/01/03 09:59 PM Re: Road Closures
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Quote:

estivate said:
Quote:

klenke said:
I'm mad that White Chuck River Road is so badly damaged and that I didn't get into Glacier Peak earlier. Now what am I going to do? Wait 4 years? Go in by some way longer route? Also, it appears access to Dome Peak is now a major problem because of washouts on the Suiattle River Road.




Oh boo hoo. How terrible that the mountains just got a little wilder. (sob) Maybe the Ptarmigan traverse will be a little less of a mob scene next summer.

With the Whitechuck and Suiattle both out, I wonder if the White River approach isn't the easiest way in to Glacier next year. Of course, there's always mountain bikes.






Yeah that traverse is like wall to wall people.

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#264053 - 11/01/03 11:13 PM Re: Road Closures
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Quote:

The North Cascades National Park yesterday announced it suffered about $1.7 million in road damages, and repairs to trails and other structures will cost an additional $1 million.





That's 540,000 trail-park passes. Get buyin' people!

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#264054 - 11/17/03 12:31 PM Re: Road Closures
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Closures on Mtn Loop Hwy-


More info here:

http://www.heraldnet.com/Stories/03/11/16/17709628.cfm



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#264055 - 11/19/03 06:43 PM Re: Road Closures
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Pictures from some of the closures in Mt Baker Snoqualmie national forest: look here


Edited by To_The_Top (11/19/03 09:33 PM)
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#264056 - 11/19/03 08:59 PM Re: Road Closures
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Just out of curiosity, how bad does the cascade river road get during winter? If I wanted to make a december ascent of eldorado, would I have reasonable access?

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#264057 - 11/19/03 10:53 PM Re: Road Closures
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Quote:

MysticNacho said:
Just out of curiosity, how bad does the cascade river road get during winter? If I wanted to make a december ascent of eldorado, would I have reasonable access?




Completely depends on snow levels. The road start at marblemount can't be very high...maybe 1,000 feet? The eldorado trailhead is around 2,800 if I recall. I believe they plow the first few miles, maybe 5? Since the road increases in elevation fairly gradually I could see you having to ski/walk anywhere from 0 to 10 miles. If no heavy snow falls below 3,000 before your planned ascent, you may make it all the way. However, if we get a big enough snowfall down low it probably stays cold enough in there to keep the road covered until late winter or early spring.

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#264058 - 11/20/03 10:17 AM Re: Road Closures
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They have exact closure info at
www.nps.gov/noca

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#264059 - 11/20/03 10:42 AM Re: Road Closures
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The Cascade River Road was plowed to the Eldorado Creek trailhead the year before last. You might get lucky and find it plowed to the road closure at mile 18.1 - I believe that is about two miles from Eldorado Creek.

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#264060 - 11/20/03 11:42 AM Re: Road Closures
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mattp said:
The Cascade River Road was plowed to the Eldorado Creek trailhead the year before last. You might get lucky and find it plowed to the road closure at mile 18.1 - I believe that is about two miles from Eldorado Creek.




Wow, that's cool, I didn't realize they ever plowed that far. Last I heard they had actually gotten rid of the mile 18.1 closure and it was simply closed at the eldorado gate like normal. Am i misinformed?

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#264061 - 11/20/03 11:44 AM Re: Road Closures
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IF you follow Dima's link, above, that's what it says.

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#264062 - 11/20/03 11:50 AM Re: Road Closures
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As of Nov 8th, you could drive all the way to the Eldo TH where the road was gated.

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#264063 - 11/23/03 09:03 AM Re: Road Closures
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From yesterday's outing:

We discovered that Money Creek Road (FR-6420) off of Hwy 2 is closed about 4.5 miles in from Miller River Campground. This is due to a huge washout across the road. The 20-ft long by 5-foot diameter duct is sticking almost straight up in the air in the washout (in the middle of the road). This is probably for the creek draining out of Cement Lake high up on Crosby Mountain.
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#264064 - 02/09/04 10:01 AM Re: Road Closures
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Quote:

Closures on Mtn Loop Hwy-





We drove the mnt loop hiway this weekend looking to get to some super secret ice projects, and the bridge mentioned on map above has been repaired. There was also no trouble getting past Bedal (no snow on road, and for those who dont know, there is no gate on the mnt loop highway past Bedal, so "closed" is more of an advisory than anything that will really stop you).

However, the mnt loop highway is completely washed out about 2 mi past Bedal.



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#264065 - 02/09/04 10:28 AM Re: Road Closures
JoshK Offline
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Alex, since the highway is a loop does that effectively mean you can get to any point on the highway now by driving around one side or the other?

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#264066 - 02/09/04 10:36 AM Re: Road Closures
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Josh, in my experience the highway usually has alot more snow on it this time of year, and in years past has been plowed only as far as Silverton on the South side. If there isnt any snow past Big Four and over Barlow Pass (I dont know) then you should be able to get at it from the South, yes.

I was really surprised that there was as little snow as there is currently.

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#264067 - 02/15/04 07:26 PM Re: Road Closures
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fyi, the Mtn Loop is gated at Deer Ck (about 2 miles before Big 4).

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#264068 - 04/05/04 09:53 AM Re: Road Closures
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From www.heraldnet.com

Loop highway to stay closed


By Cathy Logg
Herald Writer

With spring in the air, hikers and climbers have begun heading for the hills. But some Snohomish County hills will be much harder or impossible to reach.

About six miles of the Mountain Loop Highway will remain closed this year, from Barlow Pass to the Bedal Campground on the Sauk River south of Darrington.

Heavy rains and massive flooding in October caused millions of dollars in estimated damage to "roads, trails, bridges, campgrounds, the whole ball of wax," said Ron DeHart, spokesman for the U.S. Forest Service's Mount Baker-Snoqualmie National Forest.

"The enormity of the damage far exceeds our initial assessments," said Rob Iwamoto, acting U.S. Forest Service supervisor.

Recreation sites that had withstood previous 100-year flood events were damaged or wiped out, primarily on one weekend that brought more than 10 inches of rain in some places in a single day.

"This isn't going to be repaired overnight. It's going to take a couple or three seasons," DeHart said. "We're trying to get a start on it now, and as the weather improves. It's pretty awesome some of the areas that are blown away and inaccessible for spring hikers. They just won't be able to get there."

The damage includes about 30 miles in Snohomish County of the popular Pacific Crest Trail "that's just gone," DeHart said. Authorities are working with their counterparts in the Wenatchee National Forest on the east side of the Cascade Mountains to find alternate routes for hikers.

"We had other floods in '96 and '98," DeHart said. "It's happened before, but not quite to this magnitude. This was the mother lode of storms we've seen in recent memory. This stuff came cascading down fast."

The first problem was just trying to get a handle on all the damage, since some areas are still covered with snow and authorities haven't seen the full extent of the damage. The $12 million is just a preliminary estimate, he said.

The Forest Service has formed several assessment teams, which are learning more as the snow recedes and they can get into remote areas.

Some of the hardest hit are the Suiattle River drainage north and east of Darrington, and along the Whitechuck River, which drains into the Sauk River.

"There's a number of fairly major recreation areas that are in need of some repair," DeHart said. "In some places, roads are impassable, bridges have been destroyed or removed. If we're going to put everything back the way it was, it's going to be a pretty monumental task."

In an aerial assessment last year, Forest Service personnel couldn't even find Kennedy Hot Springs, he said.

At least 15 recreational trails and 20 trail bridges were damaged or destroyed, along with more than 40 roads or road segments that now are impassable. Out of 40 campgrounds in the National Forest, 13 in Snohomish, Skagit and Whatcom counties suffered damage, DeHart said.

The Kennedy Hot Springs ranger's cabin and a nearby backcountry camp are buried under mud and debris, and some of the historical cabins at Monte Cristo were damaged or destroyed.

DeHart estimated the damage at $5 million for roads, $4 million for trails, $400,000 to $450,000 for campgrounds and other developed sites, and another $2.5 million for watershed and fish habitat losses on the Nooksack, Upper Skagit, Cascade, Stillaguamish, Suiattle and Whitechuck rivers.

Tackling flood-damaged areas poses a twofold problem: repairing the damage and finding the money to pay for it, he said.

Forest Service officials have applied for emergency relief funds for federal roads through the U.S. Department of Transportation, and expect to see some money from that source, he said.

DeHart urged people to check the agency's Web site or the nearest ranger station before venturing into the forest and backcountry, especially those headed for higher-elevation recreational facilities. Many remain unsafe and will remain closed indefinitely.

Reporter Cathy Logg: 425-339-3437 or logg@heraldnet.com.


Check before you go

For more details on damage in the Mount Baker-Snoqualmie National Forest, visit the U.S. Forest Service Web site at www.fs.fed.us/r6/mbs.

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#264069 - 04/27/04 11:14 AM Re: Road Closures
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Fall flood damage hampers forest access
The Forest Service says it will be 2005 before it has money to start fixing numerous washed-out trails, roads and bridges near Darrington.


By Lukas Velush
Herald Writers


DARRINGTON -- It's been a rude awakening for hikers, mountain bikers and river rafters who, as the weather has started to get nicer, have tried to go play at their favorite spots on the Mount Baker-Snoqualmie National Forest.

The massive wave of destruction left by last fall's record flood is no secret, but it's only now that the 5.5 million people who visit the forest each year are starting to realize how severely their recreation options have been curtailed.

The 100-year storm came the weekend of Oct. 17, and in one 24-hour period poured more than 6 inches of rain on Darrington, and more than 10 inches -- perhaps more -- on the flanks of Glacier Peak.

Although the flood damage spanned the entire 1.7-million acre forest, the worst of it occurred around Darrington, where half of the 500,000-acre Darrington Ranger District is now inaccessible, said Gary Paull, trails coordinator for Mount Baker-Snoqualmie.

"I thought it looked a little like the aftermath of Mount St. Helens," Paull said, adding the aftermath of the storm was among the most damaging things he's ever seen. "I've lived here all my life, but I've never seen a storm like that."

Topping the list of impacts: The Mountain Loop Highway from Darrington to Granite Falls is closed; a roundtrip hike to Glacier Peak is now 20 miles longer; a 50-mile detour has been added to the Pacific Crest Trail; and a boat launch for Sauk River rafters needs to be replaced.

The damage tally is $12.5 million, $8.3 million for washed-out Forest Service roads and bridges, and $4.2 million for trails -- numbers that could be revised upward once more-remote locations are reviewed. Pieces of 40 forest roads were washed out, including several bridges, 24 trail bridges were destroyed and 20 pieces of trail were washed out.

The Forest Service took media to damaged sections of the forest Monday to show just how much public access will be restricted this summer.

"We simply have to communicate to people that it isn't going to be restored overnight," said Ron DeHart, a Forest Service spokesman.

If funding comes this spring, actual repairs won't start until next summer, and most roads and trails won't open until the summer of 2006 or later.

People who want to play will find somewhere else to go, but that won't help the few rural business owners here who depend on a surge of summer visitors to stay afloat.

"We depend an awful lot on the tourist," said Richard Anderson, owner of Sauk River Trading Post, an outdoor store in Darrington. "Every business does."

Anderson was eager to hear when the roads would be repaired. When he heard not until 2006 or 2007, he looked surprised. "Phew, that is going to hurt," he said.

Considering the situation, businesses owners are going to have to be creative to keep dollars coming in.

Instead of worrying about the washed-out Mountain Loop Highway, Anderson suggested connecting with businesses in Concrete to the north to emphasize a scenic route up Highway 530 to Highway 20.

He also wants to get maps showing places where hikers and campers can still go.

Members of the river-rafting community think they may have found a way to work around the flood damage.

Allyson Moore of Orion Expeditions in Seattle said guides with her company already have scouted the Sauk River. The flooding changed many rapids, but the river is still fine for rafting.

"The main concern is the put-in" location, Moore said.

The October flood destroyed the bridge across the White Chuck River where commercial rafters are supposed to embark at the confluence with the Sauk River. The Forest Service is working with rafting companies to see if an alternative location across the Sauk would suffice, Darrington District Ranger Terry Skorheim said.

Many would-be recreationists already are stumbling up against closed roads.

Marc Byrd of Monroe had his bid to scout out a future hiking trip up part of Glacier Peak thwarted Monday when he came upon a section of the White Chuck River Road washed away by the flood.

"I'm not really OK with it," he said, adding that he knows it takes time to fix washed-out roads. "It's just a matter of getting the money to fix it."

A pending federal appropriations bill has the money the Forest Service needs to fix the roads, and possibly has the money needed for the trails, but the Forest Service isn't counting on the money until it arrives.

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#264070 - 05/07/04 08:27 PM Re: Road Closures
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NCNP press release

North Cascades National Park Service Complex
Storm/Flood Damage
Update May 5, 2004
Stehekin

Storms and flooding in October 2003 damaged roads, trails and campgrounds throughout North Cascades National Park Service Complex, including areas within the Stehekin Valley. Some repairs will be completed in 2004. Others require several years to complete. The following is an overview of changes that may affect visitors to the Stehekin area. This list will be updated as other natural events occur and repairs are made. Trail conditions such as eroded trail tread and missing or broken bridges, foot logs and puncheon will increase the time and caution required for trail travel. Hikers should exercise great care at all stream crossings and are encouraged to turn back if safe crossing is not possible. A complete list of storm damage effects is available from the Golden West Visitor Center or on the web at www.nps.gov/noca.

STEHEKIN VALLEY ROAD CONDITIONS AND SHUTTLE SERVICE

The Stehekin Valley Road is currently open for vehicle traffic to a parking area just above the Stehekin Valley Ranch (approximately 9.5 miles from the Landing). Due to damage to the upper valley road, the National Park Service Shuttle will not be operating in 2004. The privately operated Stehekin Shuttle Bus will make 3-4 daily round trips in the lower valley between the Stehekin Landing and the end of the drivable road May 17th through October 10th. Transportation on the Stehekin Shuttle is demand only May 17th through June 17th. During these dates service will only be provided if passengers board at the Stehekin Landing or with advance reservations. These reservations can be made at the North Cascades Stehekin Lodge (after May 17th) or by contacting Jim Williams at bBoxholder, Stehekin, WA 98852 or jpwilliams1040@yahoo.com

Stehekin Valley Road conditions for walking, stock use, and bicycling:

End of drivable road (9.5 miles) to High Bridge (11.2 miles): Traveling upvalley from the end of the drivable road 0.5 miles you will encounter water over the road for approximately 450 feet. Depending on conditions you may choose to ford the water or take a trail re-route to Bullion Camp, High Bridge and other upper valley trailheads and locations.

Ford water with caution as it varies in depth and has a current. This is the recommended route for bicycles.

A trail re-route from the Stehekin Valley Road bypasses the water and links to the Bullion Loop Trail in two places. One link is located across from the parking area at the end of the drivable road , and the other is closer to the washout where the Bullion Loop trail crosses the road. Each Trailhead will be signed. You may continue on this trail to Coon Lake, the Old Wagon Road Trail (Pacific Crest Trail) and High Bridge Ranger Station or follow the sign to Bullion Camp and out to the Stehekin Valley Road. You may take a bicycle on this re-route with extreme caution. Bicycles are only allowed on the section of trail from the end of the drivable road to Bullion Camp. From Bullion Camp, bicyclists can reach the Stehekin Valley Road. The re-route is rocky, with stream crossings, moderate elevation gain and tight turns. It is recommended to walk your bike through the re-route. Bicyclists must be aware of other trail users and yield to stock and hikers.

High Bridge (11.2 miles) to Bridge Creek (16 miles): Road passable to stock, hikers and bicycles between High Bridge and Car Wash Falls (~13 miles). The road between Car Wash Falls and Bridge Creek is non-existent in places. Hikers must use extreme caution as slippery rocks and steep washouts are commonplace. This section of road is impassable to stock and bicycles and is not recommended for hikers. Hikers and stock can use the Old Wagon Road Trail (Pacific Crest Trail) to travel to Bridge Creek (this trail is not open to bicycles). The Old Wagon Road Trail (Pacific Crest Trail) is accessible from High Bridge (via Coon Lake Trail) or from the Stehekin Valley Road a short distance below Car Wash Falls. Bicycles are not allowed on the Old Wagon Road or other trails within the North Cascades National Park Service Complex with the one exception mentioned above.

Bridge Creek (16 miles) to Glory Mountain (20.3 miles): No report as of May 5. This section of the Stehekin Valley Road will be open to hikers and stock. Check at the Golden West Visitor Center for current conditions.

Glory Mountain (20.3 miles) to Cottonwood (23 miles): A re-route will be created during the 2004 season. Check at the Golden West Visitor Center for current conditions.

TRAILS

Trail Condition Reports: Trail conditions and repair will change weekly throughout the season. It is recommended to check the most up-to-date conditions before the start of each trip. The National Park Service issues bi-weekly trail condition reports during summer. Visit www.nps.gov/noca/cond.htm and stop by the Golden West Visitor Center in Stehekin for the most current report. (Note: The park staff is compiling the first trail condition report of the season and hopes to have it available in the next week.)

As of May 5, the Maple Creek Bridge on Bridge Creek Trail (Pacific Crest Trail) is impassible to hikers. Until the Maple Creek Bridge is repaired, hikers should use extreme caution when fording. There is currently no ford for stock at this location.

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#264071 - 05/07/04 08:59 PM Re: Road Closures
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Thanks, Blake.
Well it looks like 6.5 miles of extra hiking/biking to get to the Bridge Creek Trail (for that approach to Goode) and 9.0 miles of extra to get to the Park Creek Trail (Goode/Storm King/others).
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#264072 - 05/07/04 09:28 PM Re: Road Closures
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yeah, and for the people who hike from the cascae river parking lot to Stehekin.. geez!
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#264073 - 05/09/04 06:30 AM Re: Road Closures
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I work on Trails out of Stehekin... things are kind of a mess here, in terms of trails and roads. We're still finding out the extent of the flood damage done to our trail system.

Of interest to hikers and climbers would be:
(As said before)-Bridge Creek/PCT Trail was affected at the Maple Creek crossing (this is north of Junction with North Fork of Bridge Creek about 1 1/2 miles). Hikers suspension bridge was damaged and won't be repaired for at least a couple of weeks, if not more.
North Fork of Bridge Creek-we don't yet know about this trail, it's still under snow. We're worried the footlog might be out at Grizzly Creek. This would make a challenging crossing for hikers and climbers heading up this drainage to get close to Goode.
Park Creek drainage-haven't been able to go up this trail yet either. We're worried that the foot log at Two Mile is gone. There is a major slide in this drainage, further up, that has been seen by air which probably has affected the hiking trail. If the footlog is gone, crossing at Two Mile will be challenging. Since Thunder Basin (on the west side of Park Creek pass) is so damaged from flooding this trail won't be high on our priority list.
Cascade Pass Trail- Basin Creek campground and suspension bridge was totally blown out by a land slide. Currently no camping is allowed there and crossing Basin Creek en route to Cascade Pass is hazardous.

In summary, any bridge or footlog crossing was either destroyed or might have been affected (a couple we're not sure about), so stream crossings are a reality in our area.

Also, sections of trail have just disappeared, either through land slides or movement of streams. Be prepared to bushwack and find your way if necessary.

It will probably take at least a couple of summers before things are back to normal, if ever. If you're coming to Stehekin, be prepared to walk a long ways to get to the trailheads since there is no Park Service shuttle (no more road).

Typical government situation-work load increases, but budgets are continually cut.

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#264074 - 05/09/04 02:41 PM Re: Road Closures
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SW=SCott and Wendy?

This is Blake from the Bakery by the way. If this is Scott, that ski trip you did along the Sawtooths looked great!
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#264075 - 05/09/04 05:19 PM Re: Road Closures
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Blake, I wondered if that was you.
Are you coming back to Stehekin this summer?
Looks like another drought year, it's already dry around here. Probably more fires again. The plus side is that the fishing should be good early with not much of a run-off.
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#264076 - 05/09/04 07:46 PM Re: Road Closures
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Yeah, i'm coming back for sure. I should be there around the 17th. I'm not sure about the fly fishing though, i'm thinking that the flooding might have had some long-range consequences in that area, but you might know more than I when it comes to that.
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#264077 - 07/16/04 06:24 PM Re: Road Closures
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Cascade river road open all the way
(just linking the other post to the road closure/now open thread.
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#264078 - 02/03/05 11:55 AM Re: Road Closures
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" heard that the Clear Creek road (to darrington's climbing) had 3 washouts, but that they were actively being filled by the State as of last Friday. It sounded like 2 had been filled by then, so maybe it's all back in shape by now??


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someone said that there had been a path cleared through the washout (not by the fs but by a climber). can this be confirmed by anyone out there? "

WENT TO DARRINGTON yesterday 2 washouts where filled in to where a 4x4 could cross the 3rd washout however is huge noway what soever !! bring a bike its long 3-4 mile hike to the trail head of 3 oclock rock didnt bother instead climbind the waterfalls near the 1st wash out some guy said "if the routes to easy your doing it wrong"

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#264079 - 02/03/05 12:00 PM Re: Road Closures
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The large washout will need to be filled with heavy equipment and the culvert needs replaced too. This one will take awhile
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#264080 - 02/03/05 01:08 PM Re: Road Closures
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They are working on it today. Maybe we oughtta chip in on a thank you present for Mr. Ranger (though I'm sure they're not doing it just for us).

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#264081 - 02/03/05 01:14 PM Re: Road Closures
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for sure! i was thinking about donating some time to the tsunami washington fund for washed out roads and stevens pass employees

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#264082 - 02/28/05 05:27 PM Re: Road Closures
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good news!

Feb. 28, 2005
Crews started the snow removal process today. (on hwy 20)
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#264083 - 03/03/05 09:12 AM Re: Road Closures
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less good news:
"March 02, 2005
Almost immediately the optimism for a quick opening was dashed when the 7" to 14" of snow turned out to be nearly solid ice. Crews juggled around some equipment and brought in a D-5 cat and have a couple road graders with ice blades coming. The pass won't be open by this weekend (March 5-6). Crews will be working through the weekend and next week too until they can break through the ice and get the highway open."



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#264084 - 03/03/05 12:11 PM Re: Road Closures
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Right now, they've cut a single lane to the Liberty Bell avalanche chutes and expect they'll be able to have a lane open through to Washington Pass by tomorrow. That will allow equipment to work the entire closure zone.




wow, sounds like they've got most of the road done!

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#264085 - 03/08/05 03:49 PM Re: WOOHOO!
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From WA DOT!

The pass will open at 11 a.m. Thursday, March 10.

March 08, 2005
March 10th marks the earliest-ever spring reopening of the North Cascades Highway. “While it never closed during the ’76-’77 drought,” said WSDOT Twisp Maintenance Supervisor Don Becker, “The crew is very pleased to beat the old record by nearly two weeks.”

The previous earliest opening was March 22nd, 2001. Ten days from start to finish is a new record for clearing the highway. “Travelers will find bare and dry or bare and wet pavement over the entire route,” said Becker. Crews have been working continuously since Monday, February 28th to remove layers of ice that covered most of the 34-mile closure zone. “Usually, it’s a giant snow removal effort below avalanche zones,” said Becker, “This year, that was the easy part due to the small amount of snow. The challenge turned out to be breaking through miles of ice that was 2 to 14 deep and firmly bonded to the pavement.” “A combination of equipment fitted with special ice-cutting bits, use of crystalline deicer applications and warm temperatures are all aiding the effort,” said Becker, “This is the first time we’ve been able to set a reopening time this far in advance, but with no avalanche threat, it’s predictable.”

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#264086 - 03/27/05 12:10 PM Re: WOOHOO!
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Wa Pass closed yesterday while we were screwing around. The road didn't seem to bad as my Subaru made it out without incident, but it was closed nonetheless.

FYI - We saw about 12 inches of powder fall yesterday in the Cutthroat Peak area.
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#264087 - 03/27/05 01:36 PM Re: WOOHOO!
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FYI - We saw about 12 inches of powder fall yesterday in the Cutthroat Peak area.





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#264088 - 04/05/05 09:47 AM Re: WOOHOO!
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HWY 20 is open again.


WENATCHEE – Snow slides closed the North Cascades Highway about midday on Saturday, March 26th and WSDOT maintenance crews are reopening the roadway to traffic at 1:00 p.m. today, Monday, April 4th, nine days after the initial closure. “We found pretty stable conditions in the avalanche zones,” said WSDOT Twisp Maintenance Supervisor Don Becker, “And the forecast for the next week isn’t calling for any large accumulations of snow.” Maintenance crews have been clearing snow from the highway, outside the slide areas since it closed, so when safety conditions improved, the road could be opened as quickly as possible. “All we had to clear, once the Avalanche Control Team said it was safe, was the slide below Liberty Bell #1, just east of Washington Pass,” said Becker, “And that could be done in about 3 hours, since we already had the crew and equipment up there.”

67” of new snow has accumulated at the top of Washington Pass over the past 9 days, more than at any time this winter. When the road reopens, the temperature is above freezing and the pavement is bare and wet. Travelers can expect some occasional snow flurries. Becker says some of the avalanche chutes may slough some minor amounts of snow over the next few days, but nothing likely to close a traffic lane.

The North Cascades Highway had its earliest opening ever on March 10th, only to be closed by snow slides 16 days later. Updates and photos of the spring reopening are posted on the WSDOT SR 20 web page: www.wsdot.wa.gov/northcascades

Travelers will encounter construction delays as a rock containment ditch is being built between Newhalem and Diablo. A massive rockslide there, destroyed SR 20 on November 9, 2003. The rockslide left the hillside above the highway extremely unstable and blocked access to the town of Diablo. One of the two lanes will be closed 24 hours a day, seven days a week, and flaggers will alternate traffic on the open lane through the work zone. To complete the project by this fall, crews will work during daylight hours, six days a week, Monday through Saturday.

http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/Regions/NorthCentral/news/2005/SR20Reopensafter9days.htm
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#264089 - 07/29/05 10:08 AM Re: Road Closures
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Has anyone climbed Glacier Peak lately? And/or any word on White Chuck Road?

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#264090 - 07/29/05 11:00 AM Re: Road Closures
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That Whitchuck road remains closed and may well never be fixed -- the planning discussions and environmental review procedure continue, I believe, but there is no clear decision. At least some environmental groups have stated that they see the flood damage from two years ago as an opportunity to reclaim some roadless area and they intend to or have advocated that the roads NOT be repaired at all. In addition, the budgets are being cut so badly the F.S. can't afford to maintain what they have on the grid already, and the Whitechuck repair will be very expensive.

The shortest approach may be from the N. Fork of the Sauk -- see the trip report from a week ago.

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#264091 - 08/03/05 10:18 PM Re: Road Closures
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Stehekin Valley is currently experiencing a small (~150 acre) wildfire between high bridge and bridge creek. Travel between the two points along the trail is not allowed. I doubt this closure will last long, it's not particularly smoky or anything. Fire Started last sunday morning near Shady Camp.
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#264092 - 11/09/05 03:56 PM Re: Road Closures
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North Cascades Hwy is closed for the winter season.
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#264093 - 03/28/06 02:27 PM Re: Road Closures
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Hwy 20 progress: link

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#264094 - 03/28/06 04:17 PM Re: Road Closures
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Yeah, apparently you can drive to nearly Silver Star now.
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#264095 - 03/28/06 05:16 PM Re: Road Closures
goatboy Offline
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Any of you old-timers remember 1976 when WA PASS apparently didn't close at all over the winter? Any good stories of winter ascents that year???

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#264096 - 03/28/06 07:45 PM Re: Road Closures
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The pass opened 1 whole week before winter was over last year yet no one snagged a thing during that week. Go figure.

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#264097 - 06/21/06 01:49 PM Re: Road Closures
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There is a gate at the Atkinson Flat Campground on the Chiwawa River Road ( Rd 6200). About 6 miles from the Phelps Creek Trailhead.
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#264098 - 06/24/06 07:58 PM Re: Road Closures
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Mountain Loop Highway is STILL out 1 mile +/- past Monte Cristo.

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#264099 - 11/14/06 08:30 AM Re: Road Closures
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Hwy 20 closed for season. wsdot

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NORTH CASCADE HWY
Elevation: 5477ft / 1669M

Temperature:N/A
Conditions & Weather:
SR 20 is closed for the season from milepost 134 to milepost 170 //

Restrictions Eastbound:
Closed for the season

Restrictions Westbound:
Closed for the season



Updated: 07:46 AM, Nov 14, 2006
This is the most current info available
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#264100 - 11/14/06 08:45 AM Re: Road Closures
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Current Road Condtions from the USFS Mount Baker District Site .

No mention of road 2060, the Clear Creek Road. I'd be surprised if there wasn't some damage. Anyone been up there?
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#640684 - 01/26/07 01:03 PM Re: Road Closures [Re: catbirdseat]
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Most current report for today, 1/26/07:

Just in case anyone was thinking of heading up the Cascade River Road this fine weather winter weekend.


Cascade River 01/12/2007: SNOW Can drive to Marble Creek Campground. Icy and snowy, need high clearance, 4x4 and chains beyond. Gated at El Dorado Creek (Milepost 20.) Road washed out at North Fork Bridge (Milepost 21.5). Dangerous fords of the Cascade River and Boston Creek beyond. Repairs not expected to be complete until late summer 2007. Gravel
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#640709 - 01/26/07 02:08 PM Re: Road Closures [Re: Dan_Miller]
skykilo Offline
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There's a pretty sweet washout two miles up Sibley Creek Road, too.

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#658714 - 03/20/07 08:51 AM Re: Road Closures [Re: Dan_Miller]
kurthicks Offline
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opening 2007: http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/Traffic/Passes/NorthCascades.

March, 2007

Pass Status: CLOSED
- The pass is closed between milepost 134 (east of Diablo) and milepost 177.5 (at Early Winters, which is two miles west of Mazama).

- We will start plowing and blowing snow off the highway by March 26.

- We estimate it will take five to six weeks to clear all the snow off the pass. We hope to have the pass open by mid-May.
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#666313 - 04/06/07 06:52 AM Re: Road Closures [Re: kurthicks]
skitchmo Offline
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Just talked to two NPS employees, one of whom has a project to complete at the trailhead and one who will be working on the Cascade River road washout. From what they tell me it will probably not be late summer before its open. Apparently some projects at the Cacade Pass trailhead they really want to get done. Take it for what it's worth but its a rumor from a pretty good source.
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#671923 - 04/21/07 12:01 AM Re: Road Closures [Re: skitchmo]
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From what I've seen so far this Spring of the trails, they are really beat up from the winds this Winter. I've never seen them so bad in the last 25 years.
It's going to take a lot of work.

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#681775 - 05/14/07 04:14 PM Re: Road Closures [Re: Bill_Simpkins]
goatboy Offline
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Any official word from the NPS on Cascade River Road status?
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#693952 - 06/14/07 11:00 AM Re: Road Closures [Re: goatboy]
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#693982 - 06/14/07 11:41 AM Re: Road Closures [Re: goatboy]
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Plan on a long walk. From what I've heard, it'll be gated below the Diamond Mine trailhead most of summer. Not sure about the latest, though.
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#709882 - 08/01/07 08:01 PM Re: Road Closures [Re: Weekend_Climberz]
sammy Offline
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The Cascade River Road past the El Dorado TH reopened today (aug 1).


Edited by sammy (08/01/07 08:04 PM)

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#710845 - 08/04/07 02:16 PM Re: Road Closures [Re: sammy]
Whatcomboy Offline
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Cascade River road is fixed to end of road . Good job on repair. Now fix the rest of closed roads.

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#738118 - 10/29/07 12:11 PM Re: Road Closures [Re: Whatcomboy]
Alex Offline
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Cascade River road is now gated at the Eldorado trailhead.

Sibley Pass road is closed at the Cascade River road junction.

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#771871 - 02/12/08 03:33 PM Re: Road Closures [Re: Alex]
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Accordering to this site http://www.nps.gov/noca/planyourvisit/road-conditions.htm the Cascade River road is washed out again! Thats too bad because It is my favorite hike. Hope they repair it soon!

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#877945 - 04/20/09 11:19 AM Re: Road Closures [Re: Josh Lewis]
SethAdams Offline
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As I wrote here:

http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthre...cked#Post877927

The Chilliwack Lake Road is blocked 1.5 kilometers past the end of the pavement near the head (north end) of Chilliwack Lake. This road is in BC, but accesses trails that cross back into the States.

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#893037 - 07/08/09 09:01 AM Re: Road Closures [Re: SethAdams]
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I visited FS #41 last night,(Green Mountain Road), there is a big washout approximatly 10 miles from Three Fingers trailhead. The FS has a contractor working on the road up to that point but not sure if they intend to continue this summer.

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#1093371 - 01/02/13 05:04 PM Re: Road Closures [Re: estivate]
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North Fork of the Saulk River.

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#1104951 - 05/21/13 09:41 PM Re: Road Closures [Re: Bronco]
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Mt. Baker Forest Service web site says the Glacier Cr. forest road #39 is closed 1 mile in until further notice...http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/mbs/news-events/?cid=STELPRDB5420737. Does anyone know how bad the washout is and whether there is any apparent movement to repair it soon? Say, by May 31st when I was planning a climb.

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#1105312 - 05/28/13 09:50 AM Re: Road Closures [Re: Bigtree]
JonW2 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Bigtree
Mt. Baker Forest Service web site says the Glacier Cr. forest road #39 is closed 1 mile in until further notice...http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/mbs/news-events/?cid=STELPRDB5420737. Does anyone know how bad the washout is and whether there is any apparent movement to repair it soon? Say, by May 31st when I was planning a climb.


I'm also planning on climbing Baker on June 13. The forest service site doesn't provide an estimated completion date, but anyone willing to wager a best-guess. I'm flying in from CO, so should I start coming up with plan B?

Thanks!

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#1105314 - 05/28/13 10:02 AM Re: Road Closures [Re: Bronco]
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just a thought, how about coming in from the easton glacier side, hike up to the pummice ridge and camp. early start, descend and traverse around to the n ridge. The descent takes you right back to your camp for the hike out. You get a nice little traverse out of the whole trip. Maybe less extra traveling than the hike up a closed glacier creek forest road. You don't get to preinspect the glacier travel with this version but the glacier is easier if you hug the roman nose and coleman headwall. (give both of those monsters wide berth though)
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#1105321 - 05/28/13 10:59 AM Re: Road Closures [Re: Bronco]
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I thought of that, but the idea of descending the Coleman Glacier that way doesn't excite me too much. In my memory some of the crevasses are significantly harder to see from above.

I've been thinking of the idea of biking up Glacier Creek FSR.

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#1105338 - 05/28/13 12:49 PM Re: Road Closures [Re: Alan Trick]
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Originally Posted By: Alan Trick
I thought of that, but the idea of descending the Coleman Glacier that way doesn't excite me too much. In my memory some of the crevasses are significantly harder to see from above.

I've been thinking of the idea of biking up Glacier Creek FSR.


I have gone up the easton and over to the deming glacier a couple of times due to difficulties with the easton. that part is fairly reasonable. I have also approached the n ridge from fairly high on the coleman before traversing under the coleman headwall. that was also fairly reasonable and done to avoid nasty crevasses. Seems reasonable to combine the two in this case. In no case was there difficulty with "seeing" crevasses.
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#1105342 - 05/28/13 01:18 PM Re: Road Closures [Re: genepires]
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I wouldn't plan on the Glacier Creek Rd being fixed before the end of the summer, if then. It is a sizable washout and, as I understand it, the FS has no money to fix it.

I would imagine that some political pressure may be needed, but those folks are pretty busy with I-5 right now.
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#1105402 - 05/29/13 06:58 AM Re: Road Closures [Re: JasonG]
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Originally Posted By: JasonG
I wouldn't plan on the Glacier Creek Rd being fixed before the end of the summer, if then. It is a sizable washout and, as I understand it, the FS has no money to fix it...


This is basically what the ranger told me when I called. They also said the slide is still active and needs to stabilize before they can properly assess damage and hatch a repair plan.

We're planning to head over and climb Shuksan as a Plan B. but for those fixated on Baker you can still pedal the 8 mile approach to Coleman trailhead. Alternatively, you can always climb via the Railroad Grade and Easton Glacier - a straight forward route.

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