Alasdair Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) Hoping to use this thread in the same way as last years with bird closure info for 2012. There are two notable closures already this year. Both for Golden eagle nesting. China bend main cliff is closed Starting Feb 15th thru April 15th. Trout creek is closed as of Feb 1 until further notice. Likely mid July. Beacon Rock, South Face Closed as of Feb 1 Info http://beaconrockclimbingassociation.blogspot.com/2012/01/february-1st-closures-and-new-climbing.html here Smith Rock Monument area closed from Feb 15- Aug 1 for golden eagles. Link for more info http://smithrock.com/b2evolution/blog4.php/2012/02/06/monument-area-to-close-february-15th Smith Rock. It looks like the closure for the Prairie Falcons is also going into effect in the First Kiss area. It will be the same closure as the last 2 years. Tieton At present, the closure at Tieton is just downstream of The Bend but it may be moved if the birds do not nest in the same spot as last year. The Bend and other Tieton crags remain open. The following locations are likely closures that I dont have info on yet this year. Midnight Rock, Leavenworth Snow Creek Wall, Leavenworth Mt. Erie I will edit this post as I get more info on nesting closures. If you hear of any please feel free to update this thread and send me an email with the info at alasdairturner@gmail.com. Due to two back to back Denali trips this year it will be difficult for me to update openings in a timely manor so feel free to add those also. Mods - can we make this a sticky? Edited February 23, 2012 by Alasdair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurthicks Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 The seasonal closure of Midnight Rock in Leavenworth should be on here too. No dates posted on the USFS site yet though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadstead1 Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Hoping to use this thread in the same way as last years with bird closure info for 2012. There are two notable closures already this year. Both for Golden eagle nesting. China bend main cliff is closed Starting Feb 15th thru April 15th. Trout creek is closed as of Feb 1 until further notice. Likely mid July. I will edit this post as I get more info on nesting closures. If you hear of any please feel free to update this thread and send me an email with the info at alasdairturner@gmail.com. Due to two back to back Denali trips this year it will be difficult for me to update openings in a timely manor so feel free to add those also. Mods - can we make this a sticky? I did not think they had eagles nesting on Denali. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevetimetravlr Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 What is the purpose of this thread? Is it to make people aware of raptor closures? If so, why so incomplete? Whats the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genepires Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 What is the purpose of this thread? Is it to make people aware of raptor closures? If so, why so incomplete? Whats the point? I think Alasdair already answered your questions in the original post. purpose is to let people know of closures that are in affect and about to be in affect Incomplete because he does not know of all closures. He asked for people to post if they are aware of closures. reading comprehension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alasdair Posted February 10, 2012 Author Share Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) What Gene said. Believe it or not it is hard to know if some areas are closed until the land manager has decided they will be closed, but I updated the OP to make it more obvious. I am just starting to gather the info for this season and these two go into effect now so I added them. The peregrine closures are usually quite a bit later than the eagle closures. Edited February 10, 2012 by Alasdair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevetimetravlr Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 He didn't answer my question in the original post Gene. He modified it to include other places after the fact. To me it doesn't make sense to start a thread titled 2012 Bird Closures, request it to remain sprayfree, and then just list two widely seperated closure areas and not others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Hoping to use this thread in the same way as last years with bird closure info for 2012. There are two notable closures already this year. Both for Golden eagle nesting. China bend main cliff is closed Starting Feb 15th thru April 15th. Trout creek is closed as of Feb 1 until further notice. Likely mid July. Beacon Rock, South Face Closed as of Feb 1 Info http://beaconrockclimbingassociation.blogspot.com/2012/01/february-1st-closures-and-new-climbing.html here The following locations are likely closures that I dont have info on yet this year. Tieton Midnight Rock, Leavenworth Snow Creek Wall, Leavenworth Smith Rock Mt. Erie I will edit this post as I get more info on nesting closures. If you hear of any please feel free to update this thread and send me an email with the info at alasdairturner@gmail.com. Due to two back to back Denali trips this year it will be difficult for me to update openings in a timely manor so feel free to add those also. Mods - can we make this a sticky? what about Smith rock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephH Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 It's a pretty simple proposition - gather all the closures folks know about into one sticky post at the top of the Access Issues forum. And the problem with that is what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alasdair Posted February 10, 2012 Author Share Posted February 10, 2012 what about Smith rock? ? I dont really have enough info here to answer your question. Can you add some detail to your question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 http://smithrock.com/b2evolution/blog4.php The Monument at Smith Rock will be closed from February 15th to August 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 what about Smith rock? ? I dont really have enough info here to answer your question. Can you add some detail to your question? Really? You are on a thread devoted to bird closures and I ask what about Smith Rock and you cannot derive from that what I am referring too. Come on brother..... Which climbing areas at Smith Rock are closed due to bird closures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 http://smithrock.com/b2evolution/blog4.php The Monument at Smith Rock will be closed from February 15th to August 1. sorry but using ur search engine is cheating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 i'll google sum shit for ya eldorado canyon state park http://www.theoutdoorwire.com/story/1328004601trzvh1grg5h this is fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Yosemite this is for 2011, can't imagine it's changed much http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/climbingclosures.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephH Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 To best keep the process formal we are not releasing the documents in their draft form. This could cause confusion for the Rangers and WDFW. Sssshhhhhh! Quiet! Negotiations in progress! God forbid documents submitted to public officials should be public. And lawdy, we's all knoes dems officials is so easily confused. And if they're easily confused, god only knows just how confusing it would all be for the poor average cc.com climber who makes it out to Beacon a few times a year but doesn't know the secret handshake and aren't part of the club - definitely no need for them to see or comment on any of the details. Sigh. I always did wonder exactly what 'formal' meant. Same as it ever was. All in all a proud display of openness and the true potential of social media. Ya, ubetcha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattp Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 At present, the closure at Tieton is just downstream of The Bend but it may be moved if the birds do not nest in the same spot as last year. The Bend and other Tieton crags remain open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 To best keep the process formal we are not releasing the documents in their draft form. This could cause confusion for the Rangers and WDFW. Sssshhhhhh! Quiet! Negotiations in progress! God forbid documents submitted to public officials should be public. And lawdy, we's all knoes dems officials is so easily confused. And if they're easily confused, god only knows just how confusing it would all be for the poor average cc.com climber who makes it out to Beacon a few times a year but doesn't know the secret handshake and aren't part of the club - definitely no need for them to see or comment on any of the details. Sigh. I always did wonder exactly what 'formal' meant. Same as it ever was. All in all a proud display of openness and the true potential of social media. Ya, ubetcha. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: if the s side suddenly opens please let me know so i can drop m'cock n' grab m'socks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Please keep spray out of the Access Forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Caldwell Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 At Smith Rock, the Golden Eagles have returned and appear to have selected a nest site in the Monument area (different nest than last year). Closure is in effect. There is a pair of Bald Eagles nesting near the Bivi area. You can see the Balds flying over the climbing area most days. No word on the Prairie Falcons yet. Although I think I saw one yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephH Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Some Golden Eagle pairs behave like the Bald Eagles and use the same nest year in, year out. Other Golden pairs rotate among several nests every couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alasdair Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 Some Golden Eagle pairs behave like the Bald Eagles and use the same nest year in, year out. Other Golden pairs rotate among several nests every couple of years. Maybe there are some golden eagles that use the same nest year over year, but none that I have seen. I have been to a lot of nests in the pacific northwest and not one of them has used a single nest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephH Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I suspect the latter is the much more common case due to a heavy reliance on a mammalian diet versus fish as in the case of Balds. The point being that the fact a pair of Goldens don't nest at a particular site for a couple of years doesn't mean they aren't using it per se, it just means it's in the rotation and they'll likely get back to it again in another year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Caldwell Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 There are multiple Golden Eagle nests in the Monument area at Smith. Every year they use a different nest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobo Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 ...and the banner ad is for the Angry Birds app... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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